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Re: September AMA - Discussion
Nevermind, I will split this into multiple questions...
When looking at removal appeals, some decision making by Niantic seems very inconsistent. Can you guys clarify the removal criteria (and considering it should be the same as the rejection criteria, clarify it as well) for situations such as:
- In cemeteries everything is removed, even relevant stuff or things that are far from personal gravestones (even though officially there's no removal criteria for that).
- In industrial plants, POIs are removed even when they clearly don't obstruct anything. Suff such as playfields, gazebos and chappels have been removed from industrials areas just because players were unhappy they were in a restricted area. Are we considering anything in restricted industrial areas inelegible for approval and fitting for removal?
- For military zones, POIs are not removed, even if strictly it could fit the Emergency Services removal criteria more than the industrial plants (that are removed).
- What exactly should be considered to be affecting Emergency Services when it comes to Hospitals or Fire Stations? Something that is away from entrancies/emergency bays should be ok, or anything close is to be removed?
- In K-12 there's a lot of gray zone when we have a church or shopping complex that has a school or daycare services inside. There are situations when they were in different buildings in the same property and Niantic decided to remove everything, while in others they were in the same building but Niantic decided not to remove the POI saying the curch and the daycare service had "different entrances". Where should we draw a line regarding this?
aleprj-PGO
Re: September AMA - Discussion
Does the wayfarer team have any plans in the works to address the number of photoless wayspots around the globe?
tehstone-ING
Re: Nomination and Edit Abuse in Sydney CBD From Other Countries
We have reviewed the report and have taken action on 7 Wayfinders in accordance with our policies. Thanks for helping us maintain the quality of the Wayspots.
NianticGiffard
Re: Children daycare on church grounds
Here's how I think about it:
If something's main purpose is a K-12 school, even if it's sometimes used for other purposes, it should be rejected. One example of this is a school that is primarily K-12 but also has night classes for adults.
If something's main purpose is something else, but there are s K-12 classes in it sometimes, then it is acceptable.
In this specific case if the daycare is a separate space I would disallow that space. If it's a part-time use of part of a larger space that is used for multiple purposes I'd accept it.
Hosette-ING
Re: Children daycare on church grounds
That's not how I read the criteria. The understanding I have is that a church has a congregation of all ages, and is an eligible waypoint because of what a church means to the community. Hosting a daycare in addition to all their other provisions doesn't seem to me to invalidate the whole church since the daycare is not the whole church and many people would go on and out all day.
I said if they nominated the daycare specifically I would reject that for sure. However a nomination for a church that sometimes looks after young kids doesn't seem an issue to me? Otherwise all churches do Sunday school and most have mother and baby groups or other kids focused activities, so that would make almost all churches ineligible, which I just don't agree with.
Do you understand where I am coming from? I'm absolutely not advocating to see daycare centres as waypoints. But I'm saying a church that holds lots of community groups including a daycare doesn't sound ineligible to me because of how much else it does
FrealafGB-PGO
Re: Children daycare on church grounds
I would not reject a church for having a daycare hosted there - it is not the main purpose of the church and the church remains eligible because many other people visit it too, not just the children going to daycare.
However if someone nominated the daycare at the church I would reject that submission.
My reasoning is that I would not reject a community centre or village hall just because a scout group meets there among other groups. I think its the same here. The main purpose of the site is not K12 - there are many other reasons to go there.
FrealafGB-PGO
Re: September AMA - Discussion
On the Wayfarer forum, making a post or comment with an embedded image causes the post/comment to become invisible and go into a moderation approval queue where such posts often aren't approved for hours or sometimes even days (especially on weekends). Can this restriction be removed, as it severely hinders conversations and does not exist on other Niantic forums, such as Ingress and HPWU?
Often times an image or screenshot is the best way to illustrate something, such as advice or an example, and using an image and having your post or comment censored for hours or days at a time can often make that content irrelevant to the conversation by the time the comment with a photo gets approved. This severely dampers conversations and stifles effective communication on the forum.
Strangely, the limitation only applies to photos that are embedded using the photo button, but not to photos that are attached using the paperclip button, which frankly makes no sense.
We have been told several times this year that extra staff was being hired specifically to give this forum more attention, and yet after multiple recent posts on this topic such as this one, the issue remains prevalent.
Additionally, there is a lesser criticized but similar issue where making an innocuous edit to a post or comment, such as fixing a typo, can sometimes cause the comment or post to get sent to the same moderation queue where posts are ignored for days at a time.
AisforAndis-ING
Re: Abuse of investigation
It is very likely. He was obviously stalking my profile and therefore did choose "my city" to leave "his mark" and by that I mean remove poi. I am open to talk about criteria on the forum so obviously I am also critical about new and existing poi in my community. Since daycare and churches are a grey area topic, he probably thought he could use this aspect to remove as much as he can (imo out of malice). If I wouldn't have talked about the topic, he obviously wouldn't have ever had the idea to try removing such places. So yes, me being the target is very clear.
He is a foreigner to the language and pretty much a foreigner to every concept which could locally fill the wayfarer acceptance criteria (not that he cares about those also in Japan). He doesn't know how a good place to explore here would look like (he is not part of the society and their gatherings and probably barely knows any local history), he doesn't know what a good place for exercise looks like (has no idea how people exercise here, if on their own or in clubs or in events and where it is usual or allowed) and he has no idea what makes a great place for being social (how could he without knowing anybody here).
We often see abuse reports across a country or maybe in a close-by radius. Main reason is likely the similar culture among people. The further away we go, the less likely we stick our nose in poi dealings (unless it is 100% fake abuse). I say there is a reason why he started snooping in my home place and it is not a pleasant one. While I don't mind help fixing the poi quality here, I sure would like if those "helper" would stick to the formal report procedure, with real life local proof.
Re: St. Cloud Abuse Update 7
It's quite alarming to see the reports from @AisforAndis-ING is quite frequent in regard to this area.
I have escalated this to the appropriate department and will certainly take stricter actions against all the accounts that are found responsible in course of the investigation.
NianticGiffard