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Re: Trailmarkers - warning received
Oh man, hope people don't think there's 88 other gazzas 🤣🤣🤣
Re: Trailmarkers - warning received
When there is a trail and it has kind of good markers every marker along is valid. I will keep up that interpretation.
When they are too close the gamesync algorithm manages that . But for rating it should ve irrelevant
Please restore removed portal "Floris V-pad"
Title: Floris V-pad
Location: https://intel.ingress.com/?ll=52.297098,5.091577&z=14&pll=52.297098,5.091577
City: Weesp
Country: Netherlands
The wayspot is a trailmarker of the Floris V-path.
Again, this portal/wayspot is part of an ENL field setup, and we suspect removed to frustrate us. I will report this seperately on the ingress forum. Thanks in advance for looking into this.
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Re: Trailmarkers - warning received
Setting aside the fact that this is once again a stark departure from some of the longest standing criteria/reviewing guidance.... From a safety perspective, if Niantic is using their apps to introduce people to local trails/walking paths, and has already made the promise to document every trail marker on these trails, then they have a responsibility to keep up that promise. People use your apps to stay on the trails, both using the map and the wayspots. It's so easy to get lost on deer trails or private paths (that openstreetmap still documents). Sure, you can say the players should be paying attention, but players are also expecting the trail markers to be documented in the game.
This wouldn't be an issue if this was the standard from the get-go. But arbitrarily removing an easy way for players to stay on trails that they've come to rely on is just the opposite of safe practices. Especially if someone at Niantic decided to go around and start removing trailmarker wayspots like they did with mosaic tiles according to what happened to this redditor.
Re: Trailmarkers - warning received
The Dutch will disagree. I think you are limited by what your culture thinks what a walking trail is.
Here in the Netherlands, hundreds of walking trails are currently being replaced by a "node system", because it was becoming impossible to map them all. All those routes became a bunch of spaghetti on the map.
Instead of following a certain route from a to b, you can go to the local tourist center (the VVV), and they will offer the same route as a series of numbers. For example: "Ommetje Terneuzen" became "34-20-21-29-28-18-34"
Does this decrease the value of these trail markers? No, on the contrary, the same set of trail markers is used for multiple routes.
But I can imagine the team being concerned by 50% of the total poi's in the Netherlands being these trail markers. Especially since they are prone to abuse.
I suggest two solutions:
- either only allow the nodes themselves, not the directional signs in between
- or simply accept (and praise) the Dutch commitment to exercise, using these trail markers. Isn't this exactly Niantic's goal, that we would go out and GO? Last 2-3 years, since more and more of these signs got accepted in Pokemon Go, the popularity of these trails has exploded. Nowadays, even the most rural trails see usage thanks to groups of Pokemon Go players! Isn't that great? Why would this be a bad thing?
Re: Trailmarkers - warning received
People who know nothing about hiking trails and the variety of markers around the world shouldn't have the right to decide what's valid. Especially if hat person sitting in big Wayspot rich SanFran or in another city, which usually knows nothing about how it is to try play GPS games in rural/nature areas.
But hey, keep make playing as hard as possible for such who wanna play in a healthy and not loud/smelly/busy environment (where other may give you weird looks if you stand around too long...).
Any marker is 100% valid as long as it can distinguished from markers belonging to other paths. This has been made clear by other Wayfarer team members once and for all with an easy list and other huge text and that's what I go by. I well keep submitting every single one I see so my village got a player friendly playfield made of legal existing Wayspots. Parents would thank me that their offspring doesn't bother them to drive into the next city every day if they would know.
Re: Trailmarkers - warning received
Hi,
your comment received a lot of replies and it will be great if you could give some more inside on how Niantic really looks at trail markers, did you all change your view on trailmarkers? Based on all the comments your saying basically the opposite of what said before.
I think everybody here is trying to nominate and review in good faith, but it is really hard to do so if the rules seems to be changing without any communication around it.
Re: Trailmarkers - warning received
It really hasn't been great to see Niantic undoing all this.
I have had a chance to meet a lot of nice people that play Pogo in my community by just seeing them on a trail with their phone open or holding a Go+. I find it such a shame that these stops and gyms are being removed, despite them getting nominated and approved according to the Niantic mission statement and the criteria. It is just killing the joy that many people find in going out on these trails. I think if most of the stops and gyms disappear it is going to do just the opposite of what Niantic wants for it's Pogo players. Less exercise, less exploration, etc. There is a lot of cool stuff to see out in the dunes but people don't always know that and if these POIs lure them in they really often do get to see some cool animals (I always look for the cool Highland cows on my walks) and learn about things and places they otherwise would not have seen. Shame, really.
Re: Trailmarkers - warning received
Isn't it great to see Niantic reaching it's goals this way? Why undo all the good it has done?
Also, these trail signs are often the only interesting objects in rural areas that are not on pr.p., making the game even playable and connecting people in the most rural areas. As leader of a rural and an urban Pokemon Go community, I really want to emphasize this.
Re: Orienteering Markers - Plymouth
But then here you are stooping to the same low levels as those pathetic people.