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You ruined field trip for me :(

why have any wayspots at all if we're going to be so reductive.

Hi

In my opinion, whitout pointing out that I like trails/trailmarkers or not, there have to be three essential things be done:

1. Make absolutly clear, what niantics willing is (perhaps with photo examples yes/no)
2. Include an easy way to reject it with this reason
3. If the current willing is against this POIs, create an email which pointed out this fact. F.e. ... your wayspot doesn't meets our current criterias anymore ... Whitout warning character, only information.

ingress came first, so maybe your game ruins the game we like to play?

purely hypothetical of course, we all know neither game ruins the other. it's really a terrible way to frame the situation.

I have found tons of fake LFLs over the years. There's one area where somebody would go take pictures of an LFL from different angles and then submit it in half a dozen different locations. I think I found 30-40 fake/duplicate LFLs in total.

@Garfieldfreakje-ING Thanks for posting and

Thanks @26thDoctor-PGO for finding that link with a nice clear description.

I also want to link to this thread

@NianThib @NianticAaron

I fully expect this conversation to continue in the new forum as the issue is one that is causing deep frustration and distress - it is absolutely clear that the final sentence is a direct threat.
I personally think it is fundamentally unfair to refer to these submissions as violations as they are official objects, and their sole purpose is to aid exploration of a trail. Providing they are accurately placed and have a reasonable title /description they have met submission criteria. Differing in opinion as to whether something is acceptable and is a question of judgement.
The local community knows and understands what these POI mean. I am grateful to the website posted to learn about GR routes. It’s clear that they are all about exercise and exploration 👍👍 that is 2 criteria in the bag. It’s possible that they are not all in a safe location that is an easy judgement to make. Providing they are not located on PRP etc then again that will be fine. Unless they are inaccurately placed, poor photo, title or description they will be assessed as passing that question. For permanent and distinct they are clearly a permanent feature- the route is permanent and the sign is permanent on that route. That leaves distinct as the final question. Distinct is defined in the tool tip as

When in the immediate area, the location is visually distinct enough to identify.

Trailmarkers like these are designed to be distinct - or you wouldn’t spot them 🙄

I understand concerns where there are several a few feet apart, and problems around streetview but it’s not that hard for a reviewer to distinguish if a particular submission is a clear unique point. The guidance is not that it has to be perfect but a lower level of distinct enough.
The tooltips say nothing about requiring a name made up of words - That is such a narrow interpretation and it is concerning that this “test” is being imposed from the perspective of one view that lacks an understanding of global diversity. Other cultures and their choices as to how to represent a trail should in my opinion given more understanding and respect.
The community is clear that the walkable trail is the thing that fundamentally meets the core criteria that is behind Wayfarer and Niantic. The anchor points for that trail, that allow it into the Wayfarer database are the trailmarkers. The thing that baffles the community is why these are suddenly deemed not acceptable and removable. It very much looks like the Wayfarer Team wants to erase the existence of this activity and trails.

Personally (as a Wayfinder) I think the community on the whole is making a correct interpretation of the guidelines - thousands of Wayfinders are getting it right - and that the handful of Wayfarer Team members have a strange interpretation of the guidelines that is wrong. The lack of proper engagement and dialogue with the community is particularly unhelpful.
I shall finish this particular essay 😂 with one of my accepted trailmarkers

The cross and the pink arrow distinguish this particular long distance trail - The Saints Way - at a junction in paths - no words are used. The wayfarer team would be wrong to remove it but in essence it is no different from those that are being removed.
Wayfarer Team please reflect on your conscious bias, and reconsider your decisions.

That toggle will help you not submit duplicates!

Okay, those coordinates show a Wayspot exists for a mural there already, and it is a portal:

There are two other portals in that same L17, so either Courthouse or Downtown Little Free Library is most likely a pokestop. But there could be other Wayspots within those black circles that would not show on this map of Ingress portals.

If this decorative fountain at Renaissance Park is in Pogo, it is too close to show in Ingress. You can see how the black circle for the park sign overlaps the fountain.

If it is not in Pogo, you should submit it. It is in an empty L17 S2 cell and appears to be gorgeous from street view.