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Re: Little free library, I don’t trust them…
I have found tons of fake LFLs over the years. There's one area where somebody would go take pictures of an LFL from different angles and then submit it in half a dozen different locations. I think I found 30-40 fake/duplicate LFLs in total.
Re: Trailmarker
@Garfieldfreakje-ING Thanks for posting and
Thanks @26thDoctor-PGO for finding that link with a nice clear description.
I also want to link to this thread
I fully expect this conversation to continue in the new forum as the issue is one that is causing deep frustration and distress - it is absolutely clear that the final sentence is a direct threat.
I personally think it is fundamentally unfair to refer to these submissions as violations as they are official objects, and their sole purpose is to aid exploration of a trail. Providing they are accurately placed and have a reasonable title /description they have met submission criteria. Differing in opinion as to whether something is acceptable and is a question of judgement.
The local community knows and understands what these POI mean. I am grateful to the website posted to learn about GR routes. It’s clear that they are all about exercise and exploration 👍👍 that is 2 criteria in the bag. It’s possible that they are not all in a safe location that is an easy judgement to make. Providing they are not located on PRP etc then again that will be fine. Unless they are inaccurately placed, poor photo, title or description they will be assessed as passing that question. For permanent and distinct they are clearly a permanent feature- the route is permanent and the sign is permanent on that route. That leaves distinct as the final question. Distinct is defined in the tool tip as
When in the immediate area, the location is visually distinct enough to identify.
Trailmarkers like these are designed to be distinct - or you wouldn’t spot them 🙄
I understand concerns where there are several a few feet apart, and problems around streetview but it’s not that hard for a reviewer to distinguish if a particular submission is a clear unique point. The guidance is not that it has to be perfect but a lower level of distinct enough.
The tooltips say nothing about requiring a name made up of words - That is such a narrow interpretation and it is concerning that this “test” is being imposed from the perspective of one view that lacks an understanding of global diversity. Other cultures and their choices as to how to represent a trail should in my opinion given more understanding and respect.
The community is clear that the walkable trail is the thing that fundamentally meets the core criteria that is behind Wayfarer and Niantic. The anchor points for that trail, that allow it into the Wayfarer database are the trailmarkers. The thing that baffles the community is why these are suddenly deemed not acceptable and removable. It very much looks like the Wayfarer Team wants to erase the existence of this activity and trails.
Personally (as a Wayfinder) I think the community on the whole is making a correct interpretation of the guidelines - thousands of Wayfinders are getting it right - and that the handful of Wayfarer Team members have a strange interpretation of the guidelines that is wrong. The lack of proper engagement and dialogue with the community is particularly unhelpful.
I shall finish this particular essay 😂 with one of my accepted trailmarkers
The cross and the pink arrow distinguish this particular long distance trail - The Saints Way - at a junction in paths - no words are used. The wayfarer team would be wrong to remove it but in essence it is no different from those that are being removed.
Wayfarer Team please reflect on your conscious bias, and reconsider your decisions.
Re: Any Tips of How the Get THIS past the AI?
Even setting aside any private residential property issues: as described, this sign does not seem to meet any of the eligibility criteria (a great place to explore, exercise, or be social). The forest could potentially meet the eligibility criteria, but a sign that merely points toward the forest would not generally meet any of the eligibility criteria on its own.
Therefore, there isn't much point trying to get this past the AI, as it doesn't appear to be an eligible nomination in any case.
Re: Wayspots for pokemon/Ingress in conflict?
That toggle will help you not submit duplicates!
Okay, those coordinates show a Wayspot exists for a mural there already, and it is a portal:
There are two other portals in that same L17, so either Courthouse or Downtown Little Free Library is most likely a pokestop. But there could be other Wayspots within those black circles that would not show on this map of Ingress portals.
If this decorative fountain at Renaissance Park is in Pogo, it is too close to show in Ingress. You can see how the black circle for the park sign overlaps the fountain.
If it is not in Pogo, you should submit it. It is in an empty L17 S2 cell and appears to be gorgeous from street view.
Re: Nomonation rejection
I would do multiple details if they are something like the entrance with a historical date or something. I would not suggest nominating a waypoint with a panorama as the photo as most of it would be cut off. I wouldn’t nominate the whole street unless there is a sign that says it is a historical street. If that was the case you could nominate the sign. Also when I entered the street view I saw a painted utility box. This would make a good waypoint as long as it is still there and it is not already a waypoint. My wayfarer app isn’t loading so I can’t check if it is an existing waypoint for you. Hope this will help you!
Re: LDS and Niantic Games
Speaking as someone in Utah, the density of churches is high enough that distinctive names are very helpful to keep track of which church is which. There are even some cases where 2-3 church buildings are across the street or literally next to each other. When in doubt, eliminate potential ambiguity. You can imagine how bad this could be when sorting by name and getting 20 keys with the same name all next to each other.
Little free library, I don’t trust them…
I have seen a few little free libraries that looked suspicious. Week or two ago I had some time so I was doing some reviews, and I found this one little free library that was out in front of the side walk, but if you looked at the map it was just out in from of a home, you could see that the person took the pick with the house to their back. There were no parks or memorial site not even a fire department. I felt this was a little odd so I just skipped it. Now today I see a LFL along the side of a road and if you look at the map behind it what looks like a house surrounded by junkyard. I’m not sure if because I'm not able to be in that physical location im missing something or these are fakes. This last one, didnt look safe so I said no. What’s your thoughts?
Re: The Best and The Worst of the Wayfarer forums
I'd like a competition for Most Misinterpreted Niantic Comment
Re: Wayspots for pokemon/Ingress in conflict?
No conflict at all. Simply different inclusion rules that the games have selected.



