Wayfarer got worse after it allowed New players to Nominate
BeingRutvik-PGO
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Hello,
Wayfarer got worse after it allowed Player of Lvl 38 to do POI Nominations. The amount of fake, ineligible Wayspots has increased by a lot. Everyone is trying to get a POI in their houses.
Even if a few experienced Reviewers reject a fake Nomination, and inexperienced Reviewers accept it, it may get accepted, thus degrading the Quality of POI in-game and lowering the Agreements of Good Reviewers.
some of the Nomination I rejected because they were fake with 3rd party images, I get to see them in showcase a few days later.
This needs to be addressed quickly, the amount of bad nomination that I come across in reviewing is increasing.
I can attach 10 Screenshots of very bad Nomination I came across in 1 session of reviewing.
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The invitation to PoGo level 38s is a recent change (about 2 weeks), but nominations are in queue for much longer (months). Level 38 would be at the start of review eligibility, so I don't expect them (or level 39s) to have enough upgrades saved up to force a significant amount of nominations into voting. Bad nominations aren't anything new, either, even in high volume. With the lag between nomination and voting, I wouldn't attribute recent nominations to this change in level requirements.
There were lots of similar comments when L40 PoGoists were first allowed to nominate. There is always going to be a period of adjustment when they let new people play with our toys. It will settle down again in a while. It's not like Ingress players are blameless when it comes to rubbish nominations. There's no point getting worked up about it.
I totally agree. I came across many fake pokestops since I started playing again, some of them were even trash cans, weird drawings that are nowhere to be spotted, stickers on a bench, piggy banks or random idol posters on apparently someone's bedroom door, it's not a matter of the latest change allowing lv38 to dominate, I'm afraid bad nomination have been running around since the beginning (at least in many places here where I live)...
Even so, lately many of those are being removed from the game thanks to reports... Hopefully new nominations would be submitted by serious people to ensure real and good POI for the game.
This is only one of several rounds of submissions getting worse.
As an old school Ingress player I can tell you that they got worse when PoGo players were allowed to submit things. The quality dropped after Ingress reopened submissions in 2017. I'm pretty sure the quality will drop whenever a new pool of players first gets access to submit new wayspots.
Which shows that Niantics nonexistent submitter training is the problem and not the Level. Currently we are the ones training new submitters by rejecting garbage submissions. This trial and error approach is frustrating for everyone involved.
@DerWelfe2205-PGO I couldn't agree with you more.
I wish Niantic would guide both submitters and reviewers through the process, and along the way provides key information about what things should and shouldn't be submitted.
I would love to see the submission process start with the submitter choose a category for the thing they're submitting, ala what exists in Wayfarer these days. Once they do that the app would provide guidance for that category. Something like:
Category: FOO
Eligible, but only if it has historical significance
The next screen would be something like:
Are any of these true?
{ } It is on private residential property
{ } It is on preschool or K-12 school property
{ } It is unsafe or impossible for pedestrians to access this
(etc.)
Obviously I'm choosing words to illustrate concepts not provide precise details. All nitpicks can go to /dev/null (-:
Having the submitter select the category would make reviewing easier too, since Niantic could provide the same category-specific guidance to reviewers.
The issue doesn't lie with making submissions accessible to more players, the issue lies with players not learning the criteria or having the mentality of submit everything. Take into account the current pandemic where in a lot of places players can't travel far as well and it's going to appear worse.
There's also a running trend with some players where they've seen something as a wayspot in one game, that might not be eligible now, so they think that because it's in game it must be acceptable (postboxes in the UK is a prime example of that). One local I know has tried subbing two different bridges in my town (neither of which met any sort of criteria) because he saw one as a wayspot in a city.
Given the appearance of NIA not taking against abusive submissions or fake wayspots, that will encourage some players to think they can just submit whatever they want and get away it, especially if they're able to co-ordinate with their locals to approve their submissions.
Queue time might be months where you are and days where the OP is. Don't assume it's similar all over the world.
Yes Queue in my area is less, I review twice a week and in both session I finish to review everything I get until it says "That's All"
So More Nomination of Lower level are coming in Review for us