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Will this get pushed to the reviewer Help pages?
Did anyone else notice Niantic's acknowledgement of using cells?
How close to the actual object or location should the pin be dropped in the nomination?
Since the main goal for Niantic apps, and therefore what the Wayspots should facilitate, is to explore and discover new locations around you, the marker pin should be on top of the object nominated. Submitters can verify the location selected before they submit the nomination but purposely moving the pin to manipulate a specific app’s gameboard is not allowed.
The term "gameboard" reminds me of board games, which often in include polygonal sections within which things move about.
Since not all Niantic apps show every accepted Wayspot, how should submitters check to make sure that a potential Wayspot doesn’t already exist?
😑👎🏻 this is definitley the wrong way ....for sure !!!!!
Not that it's a real surprise though. 😅
But it does show they are aware of Pokémon Go players deliberately misplacing Pins in different Cells to trigger new Stops/Gyms.
The recent update that removes PoGo Stops when placed back together in a Cell was already a good step towards getting rid of those.
Now, we just need an option "Deliberately Misplaced" under the Abuse Rejection reasons. 👍️
Thank You.. This helps me learn more. I'm new by the way.
If a nominated Wayspot is "deliberately misplaced" (for example if somebody wants a home Wayspot) then that would come under abuse. I don't see why that needs to be a rejection reason. It is already covered by other rejection reasons. Plus, if I cannot find a Wayspot at a given location (and it's not an attempt at home Wayspot) I tend to 3* the location, which as far as I know is what we should be doing, and maybe I give the benefit of the doubt too often but I know what it feels like to have something which I know is at the given location rejected because it may be partially or wholly obscured.
Have someone from Niantic responded to any of the comments made on this post?
When a pokestop nomination is accepted, when will it appear in the game?
normally 10-34 hours after the approval
I have two questions
1) Murals that are drawn in a wall that belongs to a house but can be seen (or even touched) without tresspassing.
Technically the wall belongs to the house so it could be said to be rejected as "Location is a private residential property" however the AMA says they could be approved if "they are accessible from locations not on private residential property". Below is my example, it is a house that is adjacent to a park. The mural is on the park side, so it is accessible without being on residential private property.
This example is for residential property, however I had asked the same question a few months ago about outside walls of a school and the response was that the wall technically is part of the school thus rejected, which I have been doing, but lately got "questioned" on a forum about they are just to be rejected if you need tresspassing in order to be able to see/touch the object. Which is what is emntioned on this november Q&A.
2) Benches in parks as a "Rest area" (A great place to be social with others) or walking trails in parks as "A great place for exercise".
I see that the content guidelines says about Placement on Large areas... but in this case both (benches or walking trails) are being submitted and they DO "respect the activity they were designed to support"... They still seem bad nominations to me, but technically they are not wrong based on the criteria... but I have gathered on these benches (or group of benches) to play/trade/or just rest and I have also used the walking trails to excersise (walk or jog)...
The mural is on the house wall, so PRP guidelines apply.
A bench is a bench is a bench. It needs to be something special to get past a "generic, looks like every other bench" submission rating.
On the old guidelines I agree with you... But on the new guidelines it is not clear...
Many people just keep approving like they've been doing for maybe years now and I don't think that is correct... There is a reason why Niantic says that this new guidelines came out and replaced all previously said.
Wayspots are still not allowed anywhere on private residential property. That never changed when the criteria was updated. While some aspects of the eligibility section did change, the conditions that would render a nomination ineligible remained the same.
Confirming that this has been published on the Help Center, we ran into delays with the translation but I decided to get the information there and follow-up with the translations later.
Thanks for your feedback, honestly it's a balancing act for sure. Depending on where you spend your time (nominating vs. reviewing) there are opportunities for improvement.
Reviewers not spending sufficient time on their reviews and not giving clear rejection reasons is super frustrating as a submitter and could cause you to avoid submitting something great. This is why we're thinking through how to make this process better and more straightforward, bringing information especially to folks who aren't active here.
At the same time, from the reviewer perspective, seeing a bunch of "garbage submissions" in a row is really disheartening, feels like a waste of time and could result in you leaving the review program altogether. There are things in the works to address this as well, to make sure that the criteria are clear to submitters ahead of their submissions.
It's not an easy situation to address, and we're doing our best to honor your experiences and balance that with the goal of getting high-quality Wayspots into Niantic apps.
If they're off-but-somewhat-close, I may indicate it as "mismatched location" and leave it at that, so maybe they'll be more accurate next time. If it's way off (I had one that was ~4km away! But the supporting image gave away the real location near a restaurant), then I'll tag it as "mismatched location" and report it as abuse.
There are plenty of opportunities for Niantic to improve in this area too. I'd like to up my "correct" rate when I review, and I'm sure many others would too. The more we get "correct", the faster the queue / backlog will be cleared.
Please look into giving more feedback to reviewers. Even just a list of 10 nominations to look at each month with a comment along the lines of "Overall, the community did not agree with your review decision" would be a start, at least it would give us something to think about.
"The considerations when looking at private residential property have not changed with the criteria refresh. Considering that multi-family residences like apartment complexes can have publicly accessible amenities (like playground equipment), these could still be eligible as long as they meet all of the acceptance criteria."
What about playground equipment in a gated complex where you have to be a resident to go there? There's a gazebo that's a stop at a gated apartment complex about a mile from me, and I managed to get in when a back gate was open, but was kicked out by security. Definitely NOT open to the actual public, only to people who live there and their guests.
That's a valid wayspot.
Well, I finally got a question answered in one of these threads, and I don't care, because the new "principles" blew everything up anyway.
Can we please revisit the question about hiking trails and biking trails? When should they be accepted? Are we supposed to use the “does not meet eligibility criteria” to reject them? Most people jump right to that criteria to reject almost every trail marker, sign and even named trail marker signs as they look the same. I’m afraid without a solid clarification on this they will never be easily accepted as there is quite a grudge against them still.
also to add into this point are we to only accept one trail marker per trail? Or can multiple trail markers be accepted for each trail?
again the topic of trail markers has become a very large discussion in many threads and I believe they should be addressed as they havent been yet since the November Ama
I totally agree, this needs some more clarification. Other questions that came up in the thread:
Having some examples of difficult situations could be a big help. Maybe even a livestream of someone in Niantic rating some nominations? Known in education as "leading by example" or "personal modeling".
It's sad niantic doesn't respond to questions people have on this post.
Well, this isn't what this post is intended for.
I think making new threads for these question might have a better chance at getting a response from Niantic - depending on the question.
Why? To me it makes way more sense to keep questions related to the ama as comments on the post instead of separating it. Especially since they said all previous ama's are superceded by the new guidelines. Why continue to spread out the guidelines? Answer questions regarding this post here and then update the guidelines.
19 nomination reviewed. No one from city where I play.
I play in Lipetsk. I don't care about place in other cities especially in another continent. I don't know this cities enough to review.
Why would I vote for this nomination?
(Discussion moved to other topic.)