Hospital grounds
Fifikinsx-PGO
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Just seeking some clarification- ie hospital chapel that is far away from emergency access? Memorials that again don’t block emergency access. Is a nomination in hospotal grounds automatically excluded?
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So long as it is not in the path of emergency vehicles, next to the entrance of the emergency room, nor in or around the ICU or other sensitive areas, Wayspots at hospitals are acceptable.
Anything on a Hospital grounds gets an automatic rejection from me - they are just innappropriate places for Waypoints.
A recent comment I wrote somewhere else :
Ref : https://community.ingress.com/en/discussion/comment/72170#Comment_72170
Hospitals normally have a little garden or some kind of relaxing area. In tohse, you will often find a sculpture, fountain, etc.. I would accept those since it is far away from emergency paths.
I’d like to ask the same question. I’m going to nominate a public piano in the main lobby of a hospital. NianticCasey said that the main lobby of a hospital is not allowed. But I’m sure that it would not hinder any emergency service. Therefore, I would like to know that is there any exception to the rule. I would appreciate any advice.
The hospital consists of two buildings, one is the inpatient building and another is the outpatient building. As the picture shows, the emergency room and the piano is in the different building. The departments in the outpatient building are not urgent. And not all of the space in this building is designed for medical service. (There is a Starbucks in this building.) Moreover, a piano is different from a statue. It is intended for social gathering, and meet the criteria: “a great place to be social with others.” I think the piano would be an exception to the rule.
I would like to ask whether it is allowed. Any suggestions and comments are welcome. Thank you!
You might get problems with prooving that it is permanent.
Is there any signs that it is temporary?
It looks moveable. With the backround, you might be able to proove a permanent place. Maybe the hospital got it on its wabpage. I believe this is definately prooveable easily.
There is a signboard next to the piano. I tried to zoom in on it. It says that the piano was imported from Japan in 1963. An anonymous person donated it to the hospital after the construction of the building was completed in 2010.
The signboard is anchored to the wall. I think it is enough to prove that the piano is permanent. Thank you for your comment. I didn’t expect that it might be rejected as a temporary display.
Just because something "looks movable" doesn't mean it is temporary or non-permenet. Unless there is ample evidence that the piano is likely to be removed, rejecting it as "temporary" is unjustified.
Well I submitted a sculpture/mosaic in a very public area and it was refused in less than a day. Looks like hospitals are still no go areas.
Ok, so the email was even more amusing. Refused because it is in private residential property or farm, and because the hospotal was deemed to have “explicit or illegal activity.” I get a little frustrated that people can refuse legitimate nominations for obviously inaccurate reasons and there’s no way to question them.
I am really happy that you have never had to spend any length of time in a hospital for yourself or with a loved one. There is a LOT of downtime when patients are just resting and are incredibly bored. For those who play any of these games, being able to raid or catch from their bed would be a really great way to lift their spirits and feel normal under trying circumstances. For those who need a little bit of physical or occupational therapy, playing mobile games can be a fantastic way to accomplish that - every single rehabilitation method is looking for a way to gamify the process to engage patients and keep them working at it longer.
POI on hospital grounds in appropriate places, like gardens, chapels, waiting rooms, or the cafeteria can also provide a really nice break for employees who work so hard, often for 12 hours per day.
Well if something is clearly moveable like a piano. Fundamentally that is the definition of not permanent. Either way. You will get rejected being in the hospital, and temporary
I’d like to know your definition of not permanent or clearly moveable. I agree that an object that will be removed in the foreseeable future should be rejected. But an object is “moveable” does not mean that “it will be moved.” Moreover, everything in the world is moveable. Even if it is a signboard that is anchored to the ground, it still could be moved. In my opinion, the definition of temporary is not “moveable” but “it won’t be there for a long time.”
The temporary examples on the criteria page are a Christmas tree and a boat. I am pretty sure that both of them won’t be there for a long time.
Not permanent or moveable. Can it easily be moved? Is it permanently fixed to the ground? This can be moved and isnt fixed
either way its in a hospital. Means our discussion is useless as its not eligible to begin with
Every piano is moveable, that's normal. But in this case, there is a signboard as shown by OP that can let us believe it's kind of permanent.
As NianticCasey said here : https://community.ingress.com/en/discussion/comment/72170#Comment_72170
With regard to hospitals:
Eligible: gardens (including healing gardens) if they are a unique feature that would facilitate gathering and that is not in a restricted area.
Ineligible: the front door to the hospital / main lobby / waiting room / etc. if it would interfere with operation of emergency services, especially emergency service vehicles.
With all the additonal informations provided by @phi2458-PGO (piano in main entrance lobby of an outpatient building that will not interfere with emergency services since it's not the same building), I'm personnaly confident to accept this nomination in this specific case as a "place for exploration" or "social".
Memorial gardens or an area with a sculpture or some other object would be okay. As long as it is not near the emergency area or otherwise obstruct staff from doing their duties.