Fetch photos from gallery when submiting a pokestop - When it is available for Pokemon Go app?
pkmnsearch2-PGO
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Hello,
Lots of trainers use third-party camera app to submit their potential pokestops, while confortably in their house.
But in android 11, that is not possible anymore.
And fetch photo from the gallery is very useful because submitters can do small tweaks to their photos before uploading. For example, crop the photo to not show any reflexion of the submitter, do photo-montages to "sell" their submission and use that as the support photo, small scribbles in the support photo to clarify something...
While I know is against the TOS, in Ingress Prime app this is possible natively.
Not to mention that fetching photos from gallery avoid the hassle of submiting stuff on the spot because sometimes the pokemon go app crashes or the size of the photo is too big so we get stuck until it gives errors. So, we can submit pokestops safely at home.
So, I ask @NianticCasey-ING is by any chance this possibility in the roadmap?
thank you
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I sincerely hope this is never implemented in Pokemon Go and is removed from Ingress. If photos can only be taken with your phone default camera app and the placement pin can't be moved more than 50 meters from your GPS location a lot of fake nominations will disappear
you talk if it is the majority of the cases, which is not!
The wayfarer community keeps that in check. And wayfarer system has flaws, it is great but not perfect!
And like i said, if it wasn't the ability to edit photo before uploading there would be more frustration because we didn't "sell" well the submission.
Not to mention, it is normal to submit several times something within the eligible criteria, for it to be acepted! And for sure I won't go make 20 km just to get to the POI if i can just submit through Ingress (up to 25 km).
Not to mention the POIs in remote location where it is terrible to get mobile data.
If you are generalizing "the submitters just submit lots of fake noms", let me say to you that "the reviewers are a lazy bunch that will 1* in a instant just by judging the main photo".
If it wasn't the ability to use the third-camera app to submit stuff, i would quit wayfarer/review/submit in a instant. And i am sure, that Niantic wants a bigger POI database, just facilitate the work of the submitters.
I understand both sides.
It can support Fakes, yes. But if reviewers would review with more care these wouldn't even get through. So many are obviously fake by the way both pics appear, mostly missing a decent 2nd pic which should be mandatory.
If Niantic would implement an exif reader all photoshop created fakes would get caught instantly and could be delivered to them instead of making it into the usual review system. Or just delivered to experienced reviewers. Also implementing an AI which recognizes the pattern of a photo taken from a PC screen or another mobile.
But it's really useful to be able to use the gallery if you just want to resubmit something with a decent photo you already have or if you are low on data or got a terrible mobile receiption. Especially during winter it would be really nice to have. There are a bunch of POIs I need to resubmit thanks to reviewers not reviewing by the rules, but right now it's not really possible to take any decent pics because it's getting dark too early. I also don't want to appear like a **** by photographing the same postoffice over and over again every 2 weeks. <_<"
Leveling an Ingress account for that reason as well for a while now. I could be done already, but it's simply too cold outside right now.
Players sometimes use collages of various photos or non-photographic images for their supporting images, which can make the difference between something being accepted or rejected. These won't have location data, but are perfectly acceptable supporting images.
I would like go have this feature because I like to submit stuff while I'm on a hike. There are lots of very cool stuff in small villages and in the mountains, but sometimes cell service is just not good enough and the whole process fails.
This isn't an explanation for why Niantic is allowing remote submissions for Ingress and not in Pokemon Go, but it does help put their prioritizations into some perspective:
A pokestop on a mountaintop, with no network connectivity besides satellite phone linkups, isn't particularly useful to anybody. A bit of a novelty maybe. One pokestop is entirely the same as any other pokestop.
But an ingress portal at the same spot is highly strategic. It can take a lot of planning to gather a crew to take over a location, and coordinate to spread your hard-won keys amongst your teammates.
In the first case, you could understandably be irked that you cannot "save" your submission until after you got back into a nearby town with wifi access. But in the second case, you basically cannot submit except via remotely, thus denying both factions the immense fun of Ingress's Capture The Flag.
Even in my local mostly-urban area, there are a few spots you can't get to without a 20+ minute walk from the closest legal parking. And the back-and-forth between each team in capturing those spots, keeping them charged and ready, and basically laying waste to the other team's sekrit planz? It definitely helps keep the game interesting and fun for both sides.
My biggest issue is not having signal. Being able to use other camera apps/gallery allows me to walk away and wait until I do have signal to submit the stop, otherwise you get to the end of the submission and the spinning pokeball of **** gets stuck!
+1 for this to be fixed for Android 11
Allegedly it's on the 2021 timeline, but Niantic has a very bad track record of maintaining timelines.
It just has to come. I much prefer to submit in the comfort of my home via Ingress. Sometimes I don't want to submit it directly on site, but rather take the pictures first.
I've just spent 30 minutes on a 4G connection to submit a nomination and it didn't go through, no errors appeared.
Connected to WiFi and it still didn't submit so will have to go back to that spot again and resubmit, wasting more of my data.
If the nomination saved locally until a stable connection was found that'd be great or allowing camera roll upload like Ingress would be better but doubt it'll happen.
Apparently the code is there to do so in pokemon go but was never finished or something.
This logic is flawed. First, it takes a lot less connectivity to play the game than to submit/upload a photo, especially as cameras get better and photo files get larger. Second, having a gym on a mountain top and holding it for weeks or months is just as much as a lure/accomplishment for a PGO trainer as taking over some portal.
I ran into this situation just yesterday - had some great candidates that just would not go through due to poor cell connectivity. Multiple tries. I took my photos and supporting photos, drove a short distance away once back in my car, got to an area with decent connectivity, then attempted the whole nomination process again (successfully). It would be a great time-saver to have a Background Send feature so that once my original onsite submission failed, the data was geotagged and retained and then automatically reattempted when a stronger signal was obtained: it would save me from those multiple attempts to upload. In every case where I do use remote submissions in Ingress, it's because I have already attempted a local submission and I feel the candidate is worth the duplication of efforts. I think having a background send instead of the standard "image upload failed" error would make it possible for remote submissions to be removed (thus fewer fakes/less image manipulation) while still allowing those great remote candidates to be logged. There needs to be a way to get these wonderful spots added to the database.
On your second point: no, it's not. Taking over an extremely remote portal for your team in Ingress means you can potentially link it to two other extremely remote portals a distance away, creating a field. Fields are how you score points and win the game for your team. The other team would need to physically travel to one of those anchor points to destroy the field. If the waypoint is extremely remote it will only be a pokestop, not a gym, and all you get from spins is the possibility of some gifts to send a friend or two. Pokemon Go does not have the same team competition as Ingress, by design. Yes, I love a remote gym where I can park a Pokemon for a few months and get a one-drop gold in my collection, but it does not help my teammates in any way unless they make the same trek.
@Shilfiell-ING @SeaprincessHNB-PGO and @0X00FF00-ING wayfarer is independent of the games. remember that.
for PoGo only players, niantic should ease their submission procedure.
In the end, this is all free work for niantic database.
its not improve your games...
....(i recon that almost every player is a reviewer to improve their games lol)
I'm not explaining their logic, just their priorities as we've observed them historically.
I do remember that always. I try to be an accurate reviewer without game biases leaking through into my reviews, and my submissions are always points I find interesting or otherwise valid even if they never show up in any game. I don't know why you'd think I feel otherwise based on my statement above, which was a rebuttal to a another player's gameplay-based statement.