Athletic Fields in Parks

Hello all. Looking for a few clarifications in regards to parks and athletic fields.

  1. Does each athletic field count as it’s own way spot? IE if a park has a basketball court, tennis court, and soccer field are they all eligible to be their own waypoint, making three in total?
  2. How should less well defined athletic fields be rated? For example, a park that has a large field with two soccer nets and bleachers, but no official sign. Another one I have come across is a baseball field that has a chain link backstop, but the field was overgrown and no bases or running paths.

Thank you for any feedback.

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  • Jtronmoore-PGOJtronmoore-PGO Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited March 2021

    Each athletic field is eligible as a poi on its own merits.

    Ive had similar situation with a large field for multiple soccer fields in one. I used the goal post as a marker. Some places the posts have a number for a specific field which makes it great for differentiating between each field. Others I just assigned a number to it “soccer pitch #1”, “soccer pitch #2” would be an example. Main thing is to show in the supporting photo that they are actually different fields so show the multiple goal posts in the same picture

    edit also a general rule is to not put the poi in the field of play. Should be in a spot thats close to the pictured poi but not interfere with any games

  • Zenn-INGZenn-ING Posts: 5 ✭✭
    edited March 2021

    I think separate distinct sports Fields qualify as their own waypots. For instance a tennis court is a way spot and athletic field is a way spot and a basketball court is a wayspot...at least in my area they are accepted as separate waste spots. However,if you have two soccer fields right next to each other.... I think it's just easier to submit them both as one-way spot because you're running into the risk of trying to find places to put these things that don't get in the way of the field of play... And if you have six or seven tennis courts next to each other you're not separating each one of these as a way spot you're just marking the area as one point of interest. Different sports draw different crowds at different times I think that they are justified in fitting criteria individually. If there's a soccer field on one end of the park and there's another one on the other end then I think the separation can make the case a little easier for submitting them both individually.


    Good luck on the abandoned baseball field. If it looks like it's overgrown and not really being used then it's tough to say that it deserves to be a way spot. Submitting it couldn't hurt though and maybe you can angle the photo in a way where it's just mostly focused on the cage... Good luck

  • sogNinjaman-INGsogNinjaman-ING Posts: 3,313 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I've had submissions for the goalposts at each end of a soccrer field before - "Goalpost North, Goalpost South"!. For me, 1 Soccer field per park, #2 onwards get flagged as "Duplicate".

  • Gendgi-PGOGendgi-PGO Posts: 3,423 Ambassador

    Athletic courts (especially in parks) are typically great Wayspots, falling under the criteria of "a great place for exercise." Distinct types fields typically pass with ease. Multiple of the same type might be trickier, but tend to pass if they are distinct play areas. A previous (and now deleted) clarification from Casey had agreed that a park with multiple tennis courts could have multiple courts approved but in examples where two or three courts shared the same enclosure would be duplicates of each other.

  • Jtronmoore-PGOJtronmoore-PGO Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Oh of course if its the same field. But some fields are basically 4 fields combined into one which is what the op is asking about, ive had similar situation with a football field that was side by side with 3 soccer fields. Just showed proof of them being seperate fields and all is good. Obviously if its the same soccer field only 1 poi so they cant nominate opposite ends of play

  • KetaSkooter-INGKetaSkooter-ING Posts: 168 ✭✭✭

    My issue with soccer fields is that submitters want to submit each one. But most of these are temporary fields as they're just paint on grass. Also submitters putting baseball field POI in the outfield, Put it at the backstop ! I know they're trying to game the pogo density rules but geez.

  • Maxyme99-PGOMaxyme99-PGO Posts: 953 ✭✭✭✭✭

    What do you mean soccer fields are temporary? Only because they have grass and not conrete or other material-made field it doesn't mean they're temporary. Most soccer fields have also goals attached to the ground so you can't move them. They're as much permament as basketball or baseball field.

    As for location on sports field, I also think it should be made at the end or corner of each field so it will be easy and safe to acces for players and won't disturb people that play sports on sports field. I can't said it's made mostly for PoGo more POIs, because sports field are big and almost always one field take all space in one cell (and some from another), so I wouldn't say it's mostly because of density.

    It's just some people think that you always should put location in the middle of anything. It's annoying sometimes, because these people move location in the middle of sport field, playground or church when they review other's nomination too, because they think it should be always in the middle. One of my sport field had location moved like that. It didn't change they cell or anything like that, but it made it harder to access because it's in the middle of big sport field now.

    I think POIs should have the best acces they can, so I always try to locate them on the end or corner of any sport field and on the entrance of any playground or church/other building because it should be the best place to acces for other players. But some people prefer the middle of all these things, we can't really do anything about it.

  • LukeAllStars-INGLukeAllStars-ING Posts: 4,624 Ambassador

    As long as there is always a soccer field, it's alright. If the goals are easy to move Id vote for temporaryy

  • Kellerrys-INGKellerrys-ING Posts: 694 ✭✭✭✭✭

    @Maxyme99-PGO If the pin is in the middle of playfield, ask location edit through this form?

    https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeXTFKKkhHmapgsLN7VuhKHkT7qWj9bJjH9I2UWPf2qwo20UQ/viewform

    I tend to write in the in the support section nowadays "Pin placed in the corner/entrance/other for not to interfere with the playarea".

  • KetaSkooter-INGKetaSkooter-ING Posts: 168 ✭✭✭

    I mean when there's say 4 soccer fields in one grass field, the goals are often slid around to allow mowing and grounds maintenance and in the off season the goals are often moved to the edge of the field in a bunch for storage. Some submitters try submitting all 4 of the example soccer fields when the fields are in use and nicely painted instead of just one submission for the bunch of them.

  • Maxyme99-PGOMaxyme99-PGO Posts: 953 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Thanks for advice, I'm going to do it :)

    And I also always mention this about locating pin in support text too, but still sometimes people move them on the middle of sports fields. I don't know why, but some people do it :/

    Ok, I understand what you mean now, you're right with it :)

    I didn't ever see sports field like that so I didn't understand what you mean before. In my country soccer fields are always non movable, you don't take goals to other place from them :) What you're talking about now makes sense to me :)

  • MargariteDVille-INGMargariteDVille-ING Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's fun to go to parks with lots of wayspots.

    However, when reviewing a park's umpteenth baseball field, or a questionable volleyball court, it may not get a great score for "Visually Unique".

  • Jtronmoore-PGOJtronmoore-PGO Posts: 1,581 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Visually unique is meant as “ can you easily find this wayspot if you are around it” not “does it look different from others in surrounding areas”

    I find just about every athletic field to be super easy to identify. In my area many have numbers on the batting cages themselves.

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