Public / Shared / Community Farm
Ark4242-PGO
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When reviewing, the choice "Private Residence or Farm" could be taken to mean "Private Farm" or "Any Farm At All", despite the clarification text under that which says "Use for nominations that are on single family residences or private farmlands." indicating maybe public farmland is ok?
In the criteria, under "Ineligible location, place, or object" it says "Location is a private residential property (even if historical), farmland, a K12 and under school (preschool, primary/elementary, secondary/high school), child care/daycare center, rehabilitation center, safety shelter" so just any farmland is ineligable?
People often submit community gardens / shared farm plots in Japan, which are located in the middle of the city, in residential areas. It's a normal thing here, and they really are sort of like parks, anybody can walk through the trail and see all the food people are growing there.
Do you accept or reject these? I keep rejecting personally, because I think the intention is that any farmland is ineligible, but maybe that's wrong?
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Not to sure what you mean by farm plot inside a city center but If its anything like the community allotments that we have in the UK then id happily accept it.
They can be important community spots and worthy candidates
Not sure what you have in the UK, but it's not something I see in the US ever. It's literal farm land, with a fence around it, and maybe a gate or two. But around it are apartments and houses, instead of a forest or mountain. I'm pretty sure the local city handles leasing individual tiny pieces of land inside of it, and you can come and grow your own vegetables on your piece of land.
I agree that they are important community spots, but so are community notice boards. I've submitted a bunch of really good noticed boards (maybe 15) and they've all been rejected here. Every time I post for advice, people say they'd get accepted in any other country, so I might also be up against the collective Japanese hivemind here, even if people say I should be accepting these things. I've never come across a portal or Pokestop in Japan that was actually a community farm yet...
Personally, I'd accept allotments or a shared community orchard/plot (which is what this sounds like). The only farms I'd review favourably are those that have public access (e.g. city farms that you can go on educational trips to, or that have petting zoos of farm animals)
I don't have any screenshot of any nomination handy, but here's something near me - https://goo.gl/maps/oVr37ubs4F3DrFEi7
I wouldn't want to nominate this. It's technically shared/public farm land, where various people are all growing their own vegetables. The sign on the door here does ask nicely that if you're not growing here, please refrain from entering. I'm not sure other random people should be trampling across the things growing in there, so I feel like I'd probably 1-star reject even this still.
What you described sounds exactly like a community garden, and I'm surprised you haven't seen any in the US. There's a category for community garden and this kind of thing fits well into the Niantic philosophy, so I would find such a nomination quite acceptable.
Per Niantic guidelines, locations that take up area and are not just a single point (like ball fields and courts) should have the wayspot positioned at the entrance "as to not interfere with the activities within." So if a plot like the one you showed did become a wayspot, no player should need to enter to play the game. (Sure, Pokemon could spawn in there, but that's true even when there isn't a wayspot nearby.)
It's fine if you don't want to nominate any, but I wouldn't outright reject nominations of them.
I know of quite of few of these in the US and they're all POI, very easy to get them accepted.
Weird. I'm from Michigan originally, and I've seen plenty of cows and corn fields, but never a bit of farm land in the middle of any city. I'm glad they're getting accepted for people though. I do think they're nice community attractions. Maybe I'll start 5-staring them like I do the occasional community notice boards people nominate. I guess if a few people like me review the same thing, somebody else could get lucky and get something nice through the system here.
Meanwhile, I submitted a car bridge just for fun in the middle of my queue, and it happened to go into voting yesterday. It got accepted today. It clearly should not have been, but Japan is like this..
It's about zoning laws in the United States. Single Family Residences are R1. Most Single Family Residences are not on farms. But if a single family lives in a house on a farm - that could also be zoned R1.
A commercial megafarm with no house is not zoned R1.
Zoning laws are Jim Crow laws. Having lived in Japan for years now, this is probably why I don't remember ever seeing such a thing as a shared community farm in the states.