Upgraded nominations stuck in queue for days?
Johnsonsine-ING
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Hi,
Been wondering what's going on in the queue system, as up until recently, when a nomination got upgraded, it would more or less go directly into voting.
However, now nominations with upgrades sometimes seem to be 'stuck' in queue limbo for up to 3 days, before finally going into voting.
Not sure if this should go in Bug reports. Either way, thanks in advance to anyone who can tell me what the limbo thing is about. 😊
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This is normal. If it was a month, I might be thinking about it.
It's a new situation here, in my small Wayfarer group we all had the same experience, that this is not how it used to be - at least here, in our area. So I just thought maybe something had been changed or something.
Thank you for the feedback. 😊
Is your nomination brand new and upgraded on the same day it got created? This might slower it down a bit.
It seems to be both older and new nominations.
I'm having the same problem currently. I made 3 nominations on 3/18. The first one I upgraded is still stuck in the queue. The next 2 were upgraded the next day and were immediately thrown into voting.
A friend of mine currently has 3 upgraded nominations in limbo lol
I've got one like that. Saw an upgrade was about to be earned so went out specifically to get the nomination in the system. Upgrade earned. Nomination is now penalised.
Upgrades are meant to be a reward, not a penalty.
They are. However, they might need a bit longer in newly submitted nominations.
I have the same problem right now, what happened with your first upgraded nomination?
Having this issue again, after I felt bold and upgraded a nomination that was 'just' 2 days old. Consequence was as feared: Now it just stands there, in queue and upgraded (24 hrs now, this is not normal - not here anyway). Seems like the nomination should be at least 3-4 days old is what I'm very unofficially gathering from my experiences with this.
Have to say, it's a bit annoying. I wish there was some official Niantic info about this also...?
Don't know if it's appropriate to tag someone from Niantic (or who to tag from Niantic), so I guess I'll just wait and then keep waiting to upgrade new nominations like I usually do. Sigh. 😊
I'm pretty sure this is normal.
I think that upgrades put it at the front of the queue in your area, but there still needs to be an open review slot in your area. Presumably it is also behind other things that have been upgraded and were submitted before yours.
My experience: 100% of things that I submit get upgraded because I have upgrades coming out of my ears. It seems to take 2-4 days for them to go into voting.
If your nomination has been stuck for almost a year, that is not normal. The OP is complaining about it taking 3 days.
Hmm -- I haven't been reviewing much for months, so haven't had a number of unused upgrades for a long time, but in the past, I seem to remember that I had more than one nomination upgraded and in voting at the same time. Please correct me if I am wrong.
If you have an upgrade available when you submit and it applies automatically it takes a few days for that nomination to get to the voting stage. I've seen as long as 5 days. This can also happen if you assign a future upgrade (upgrade next) to a new nomination. There is some sort of delay on new nominations moving into voting regardless of upgrade status.
Like I said, I've seen as long as 5 days, but they have always upgraded eventually.
I've decided to bump this, since this is really quite a problem now that we can turn of auto-upgrades. I'm far from the only one experiencing this issue btw, and nobody really understands why this is (still) going on.
Since the option to turn off auto-upgrade was added, it becomes really clear why this queue limbo is a problem.
Example: You go on a trip to a place with little or no Wayspots (and you probably won't return there in the future). You think: No problem! - I saved up a few upgrades for this. So you make some nominations, apply the upgrades - and then wait for the final day of your trip/vacation until something actually goes into voting... 😑 5 days just stalled in queue, upgraded.
This happened on my summer vacation, and even though I'm happy that others visiting the area in the future will have Wayspots to visit, I'm also bummed that I would have been able to use the Wayspots for my own game time while I was there, if they had just gone into voting more or less instantly, as they are supposed to.
Please tell me the point of the turn on/off auto-upgrade if this is the situation.
@NianticAaron @NianticCasey-ING @NianticAtlas etc
Currently waiting for this one to go into voting. It was upgraded 48 hrs ago. 😕 But this is very standard, unfortunately.
...3 days upgraded, still in queue... 😴
This is normal.
As Melurra stated, three days is normal.
Please also understand that a very many reviewers are Pokemon Go players and that this past weekend was the World Championship for Pokemon Go. A great many Pokemon Go players who are also reviewers have been focussed on that major event.
It ended yesterday, so things should ramp back up again.
But it shouldn't be. An upgrade was used, so it should be in voting (is my point). 🙂
But this has nothing to do with World Championship. The nomination has not even entered voting status, so nobody could review it even if they wanted to.
The problem is that upgraded nominations don't go into voting. In general.
i have upgraded in que since feb this year... this normal ? i dont think so
Wherever have you read that an Upgrade means a nomination will go directly into voting? I've not.
For the first stage, 'In Queue' to 'In Voting', as far as I'm aware it only means your nomination will get priority over non-Upgraded nominations in getting from the former to the latter. Further and if the number of nominations current In Voting is a fixed amount, it would have to push an non-Upgraded nomination out of 'In Voting' to make room for your nomination - if it was, as you seem to believe, near instant. I very much doubt that happens.
For the second stage, 'In Voting' to 'Agreement Reached', to the best of my knowledge an Upgrade means that the nomination will go to a wider audience, overall. This means it will appear before a pool of reviewers that is much larger than the non-Upgraded. As such, it will be reviewed by the necessary number of reviewers to reach an agreement - whether Accepted or Not Accepted (or, perchance, Duplicate) - far quicker than the non-Upgraded.
Mind you, this is all guesswork on my part and based on personal experience with the system and its timings. Niantic, to put it politely, are not very forthcoming to us Wayfarers with how the system actually works.
I've had nominations that I promptly Upgraded within minutes of the nomination being accepted and appearing in my 'Contribution Management' screen. They've then sat there 'In Queue' for anywhere up to a week before moving to 'In Voting'. And, once 'In Voting', have languished there anywhere from only a few hours to one I currently have still 'In Voting' and 'Upgraded' I have that's been sitting there since mid-July.
It makes little to no sense, but that's the way it is.
It would be helpful if Niantic communicated clearly the process. So that we could know for certain that things seem normal or if we had found one of Niantic’s bugs.
@mortuus-ING this does not sound like expected behaviour and does not fit with my experience. Have you raised the issue in the report a bug thread? Keep tagging in that thread.
Well, I haven't read it anywhere obviously - my view on this is "guesswork" as well, you could say. I will still and always totally argue that an upgrade (that you have worked to earn!) placed on a nomination, any nomination - new or old - should push this nomination in voting within minutes. We have no idea why it doesn't work this way, and generally there are a lot of things we don't know about here in Wayfarer. That is the way Niantic chooses for it to be. And we choose it too, kind of, through accepting that (because we have to).
One of the things I love about Wayfarer is actually in here, in the community when we are able to change things for the better within the Wayfarer system. That's why I bring this issue up in the first place: This can be done better!
Did you read my example with my summer vacation? Had upgrades ready and used them, but one nomination waited 5 days to go in voting and that was my last day there... I know it may seem kinda selfish and that my Wayspots are not really "about me", but it would have just been so giving to be able to use them in the games. Do you see my point? 🙂
Unless there's a really good reason, I definitely think this should be changed. Upgraded nominations should go in voting more or less instantly.
It's so random. I upgraded a submission 3 days ago, it's still hanging out in the queue. I upgraded something yesterday and it went from upgraded to accepted in less than 4 hours. They're both murals on walls just a few dozen meters from each other. Why does Niantic hate FIFO?