Proposals pending for 2 months
JoFoto-PGO
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I submitted suggestions to Pokestop in February and these are still being voted on. How long will it be? Why is it very fast for some users and why is it taking forever for me? Are there reasons why some users get answered faster than others?
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It depends on the location. There are others who may be able to provide much more detailed information than me, but the main thing is that some areas (S2 cells) are much slower than others.
I have a nomin ation that has been in voting since last July. On the other hand, a PoI I nominated 2 weeks ago in a faster cell has already been accepted. That's the way it is unfortunately.
The best you can do is to do some reviews and upgrade your nominations.
There are a number of factors that can influence how long it takes to have a determination on a nomination.
I can´t do reviews :(
Why? Have you failed the test twice?
If yes, tough luck - you will have to wait a lot longer if you want to nominate in or around a major city (which are generally the slowest areas).
5 months here wait here ****.
I do think at the moment that something might be up with the system. Agreements are very slow even though I know plenty of people who are still reviewing in my local area, and things are only progressing with upgrades, which is also very out of the norm, and strangely reminiscent of when wayfarer was getting an update a while back. Once that update happened, I seem to recall things went back to normal, but I'm not sure if we're due an update at the moment. All I know is that I have 8 nominations not going anywhere right now, and that isn't right for my local area (especially given one of the nominations is in the middle of nowhere and I normally experience a resolution for nominations like those in less than a week).
Agree with the above: nominations in the area in which I am currently submitting were generally finalized in under a week in the past. I'm trying to take a tiny town from one POI to five: I submitted two late last year, and they went through quickly. The two I nominated more recently have sat in queue ever since. I'm reviewing, myself, at an accelerated pace, but the overwhelming majority of my reviews are upgraded nominations from all over the country. I'm not seeing much local stuff at all, and agreements are crawling. Maybe it's a mass exodus of reviewers, maybe it's sluggishness caused by the import/removal process for the bogus Foursquare data push, maybe it's multiple reviewers getting hit with unexplained 30-day bans, maybe it's the massive influx of marginal submissions, or maybe it's background processing of a system update. I just wish there was a bit more interaction from the Niantic mods here.
My outstanding submissions
May '20
June '20
August '20
December '20
January '21
February '21
March '21
April '21
May '21
I'm not surprised that my May nominations have been pushed to the bottom of the queue and there does seem to be a preference for nominations in remote locations but it's no guarantee.
We don't know what you've nominated, but Nomination quality can also play a role in how fast it goes.
As the acceptance/rejection rates or the number of needed votes are unknown it we can only guess on it.
Let's say that 75 percent of reviewers need to agree on a submission (one way or the other)
If your submission has been seen by 100 reviewers and you have 50 votes for accept, 50 votes for reject (taking only the extremes), in that case there is no clear agreement in weither your submission should be accepter or rejected and it will remain in voting
To make you jealous ;-) I submitted one on Monday - auto upgraded - and got it accepted on Wednesday
The system is not fit for purpose. It was designed for a very idealised state and any variance from that causing an imbalance, sets into a downward spiral that ends up with it seizing up.
Because we of concerns over misuse Niantic won’t enlighten us as to how it works we can only guess from observation. So what follows is my guess work
It seems to be designed that there will be
an even spread of active reviewers with a good/great rating
a slow flow of nominations arriving into the system pool
using S2 cells and the poi density within those cells different streams of nominations out of the pool so that those in low density areas flow out quickly to wider geographic set of reviewers to be enable lots of reviews quickly and quick approval / rejection.
those in high density areas (= less “need”) flow out more slowly to a more limited geographic set.
In addition to control this flow there is a tight limit on those in level 14 cells moving to voting so if one is in the voting pipeline all those behind in this cell have to wait in the pool until it’s resolved.
it also seems that a quick sequence of 1* total rejects seems to remove from voting.
So if all is perfect there is a steady flow through and nominations get approved at a reasonable rate and the pool is at steady state.
But things go wrong and this then falls apart.
A glut of new nominations in floods the pool. It is likely that most will be in urban already reasonably dense POI areas. If there is no proportionate increase in local reviewers then the flow slows down, nominations start to pile up. As time passes more nominations are added ( including probable duplicates). Reviewers start to get fed up and stop as their own submissions are going nowhere. So the pool is growing and the flow is stopping. It finally becomes stagnant. Only upgrades takes it out and into the faster flowing pipe.
Locally I think last April a lot of experienced reviewers went red suddenly their votes were of little value and this precipitated a log jam at a time that PoGo players could nominate.
There needs to be an overflow system.
You need to take care of your reviewers.
This downward spiral can also happen with the fast flow - if one of these factors starts to kick in.
With an increase in POI approved fast areas move to a slower flow and narrower geographic review. So these start to need upgrades.
Bringing in photo reviews without increasing the number of reviewers, slows the flow. There is a limit to the time/ number of reviews an individual can do. So if previously you did 10 - 3 might local, 5 might be “fast” stream, 2 edits. Now the photos are added so I find less fast stream eg 3 local/4 fast/2 edit/1 photo. This is very rough but you get the idea.....the flow of fast reviews slows. Over time this can start to go stagnant.
People get fed up and it all gets worse.
You need a much better balance.
Sorry this is long but it is very frustrating watching this car crash happen with no acknowledgement or explanation or plan of action.
Niantic want the information from approved nominations.
We want the POI.
@NianticCasey-ING get it sorted
I have nominations 6 mo old, even with an upgrade. Wishing for resolution. No motivation to nominate when NIANTIC ignores the problem.
5-6 month wait for completely rural nominations am I going to add more not a chance. Niantic need to stop treating its customers like fools
I still have a few "in voting" from january. of 2020. as far as I know, there are only 2 people in my town over level 37, myself at 45 and one other at 42.
Apparently that shouldn't matter but we know that is a load of rubbish