Invalid Removal Appeal

Title of the Wayspot: МДФСОО «Патриот»

Location: 55.816389,37.819323

City: Moscow

Country: Russia

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МДФСОО "Патриот" - Межрегиональная детская физкультурно-спортинвая общественная организация "Патриот" (Interregional Children's Physical Culture and Sports Public Organization "Patriot")

Decryption and legal data here - https://anycompany.ru/org/1075000002681-mdfsoo_patriot

Social page of this branch - https://vk.com/club141462420

The page itself hasn't been updated for a long time, but the last ad at the top is "Приглашаем юношей и девушек в возрасте от 14 до 17 лет в зал атлетической гимнастики "ПАТРИОТ" (We invite boys and girls aged from 14 to 17 to the athletic gymnastics hall "PATRIOT").

So, it's gymnastics hall for additional sport children's education.

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  • NikolayV-INGNikolayV-ING Posts: 51 ✭✭
    edited May 2021

    This gymnastic hall haven’t any piece of private territory and based on the ground floor of usual apartment house.


    There are screenshot from Google StreetView.

  • 3Romashka3-ING3Romashka3-ING Posts: 12 ✭✭

    Nobody wrote that it's a private territory. It's for children.

    Public schools are also not a private territory in Russia...

  • 3Romashka3-ING3Romashka3-ING Posts: 12 ✭✭

    And just in case, if it's confusing that the title doesn't contain the word "school".

    There are different classifications of russian educational institutions.

    There are "вид" and "тип". They both translate as "type" in English, but mean different things.

    The first is "children sport school" for this portal. The second is "public organization" (because it's not a state or municipal school).

    You can check wikipedia - https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Детско-юношеская_спортивная_школа


    ДЮСШ (детско-юношеская спортивная школа) — вид образовательного учреждения дополнительного образования детей...

    ---

    Типология спортивных школ в России

    Школы различаются также по:

    - формам собственности: государственные, муниципальные, общественные организации.

    - видам спорта.


    Translation:

    CYSS (children's and youth sports school) - a type ("вид") of educational institution of additional education for children...

    ---

    Typology ("тип") of sports schools in Russia

    Schools also differ in:

    - forms of ownership: state, municipal, public organizations.

  • sogNinjaman-INGsogNinjaman-ING Posts: 3,313 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If it is for children aged 14-17, then it is an Under-18 facility and falls under k-12 guidelines, making it an invalid Waypoint.

  • NikolayV-INGNikolayV-ING Posts: 51 ✭✭
    edited May 2021

    Nia should delete all children playgrounds based on this logic, because all of them is for kids under 10.

    But as I said before, this gymnastic hall (not school) based in the usual apartment house and haven’t any kind of special territory as schools and kindergartens have. There are no fence and no “school grounds” at all, so players literally can’t trespass anything and can’t bother anyone.

    Post edited by NikolayV-ING on
  • 3Romashka3-ING3Romashka3-ING Posts: 12 ✭✭

    It's school. Not big one, not separate building, but school.

    And as I wrote above, it's just not-state/municipal children sport school. For those who do not understand that it's a school and part of additional children's education, there was a link to wikipedia.

    Children's schools that are engaged in additional education in the field of music, drawing, sports, dance (and etc) are also K-12 schools (as far as I understand).

    The fact that it is not a separate building does not make it a legal waypoint. Maybe it's not a reason to delete waypoints nearby, but adding the school itself as a waypoint is somehow strange.

  • uryevich-INGuryevich-ING Posts: 3 ✭✭

    This place also provides athletics facilities for adults without restriction and at the same time, such a case is standard for most local institutions of this type.

    I freely went there and talked to the administration about the restrictions in this institution.


  • 3Romashka3-ING3Romashka3-ING Posts: 12 ✭✭

    Even the name says that it's a children's institution...

    And free access doesn't mean the correctness of the object. You can also freely enter the territory of all schools, but you cannot submit memorials on their territory.

  • NianticGiffardNianticGiffard Posts: 9,164 admin

    Appeal Denied - Thanks for the appeal, Agent. After reviewing the additional evidence provided, we've decided the Portal in question does not meet our criteria for removal at this time.

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