How to rate generic additional signs for street name signs?
I've had some discussions in the past about additional signs on street name signs and it seemed like there are two completely different views on it.
What am I writing about? Signs like this (I just had to review this today):
They are (mostly) under the street name sign and explain the origin of the street name in (often) very few words. They are about mostly historical persons (science, art, politics, etc.), but sometimes they can also be found for plants, cities, etc.
As already mentioned, there seem to be two opinions on this:
A) They are educational content and should be accepted
B) They are general signs only, offer little or no educational content and should be refused.
Sometimes there is a subgroup of B with the opinion that if the street is, for example, in the city of birth, the main place of work or the place of **** of the Person, it could be accepted.
While I can understand the idea behind A), my personal opinion on it is B). It's just the way streets are named.
In Germany, beside some generic street names like Hauptstraße, Dorfstraße or Kirchstraße (Main Street, Village Street or Church Street) and some street names with regional references (Bergstraße, Uferstraße, Waldstraße - Mountain Street, Shore Street, Forest Street; sometimes some real local names) in most cities streets were named in (often) groups after plants (sometimes divided into areas with flower names, tree names, etc.) or people (sometimes divided into areas with scientists, musicians, politicians, etc.). I think it is similar in most other countries.
As mentioned above, it's just the way streets are named. Real honor of people is not often the main reason for the name (and if so, then mostly no more than an honor of the person the first time the street opens and never again). It's more like: “We have a new neighborhood, what are we going to name the streets? Trees and flowers are already being used in another area. Let's take politicians, oh no, they are also in use. What about scientists? Mhh, Einstein, Röntgen, Siemens, ... let's choose at least one that is not yet in use in all neighboring cities ... what about Philipp Reis?". Not to forget that the additional signs are often only attached years or decades later.
And the educational content is in most cases less than little. The above example only shows Heisenberg's birth and **** dates and that he was a physicist. It is not even mentioned that he received the Nobel Prize "for the creation of quantum mechanics".
For example, the TomTom company conducted a survey for Germany's street names:
- Hauptstraße 6234
- Schulstraße 4947
- Gartenstraße 4647
- Dorfstraße 4529
- Bahnhofstraße 4341
- Bergstraße 3924
- Birkenweg 3121
- Lindenstraße 2968
- Kirchstraße 2726
- Waldstraße 2668
- Ringstraße 2514
- Schillerstraße 2166
- Amselweg 2084
- Goethestraße 2066
- Wiesenweg 2060
- Buchenweg 1911
- Jahnstraße 1860
- Wiesenstraße 1822
- Ahornweg 1803
- Feldstraße 1768
The two most famous German poets Schiller (# 12, 2166 Streets) and Goethe (# 14, 2066 Streets) lead the streets named after people and could have a small sign in 2166 and 2066 times that says that they were poets and the date of birth and date of ****. [Rarely seen, but possible: there could also be 3121 signs with small information about birches in every Birkenstrasse - Birch Street]
Is this really worth a Waypoint?
I can't see the relevance.
Or in other words, what about the "Eligibility Criteria"?
A great place for exploration? - Let‘s visit the „Einstein Straße“ and find out when he was born and when he died. And where! Oh, the second piece of infomation is not mentioned there… [Is this really enough for "Historic plaques"?]
A great place for exercise? - Let‘s visit all the „Schiller Straßen“ in the neighbouring towns and cities by bike! [if thats the eligibility creteria: next week we visit all trash graffities in the town…]
A great place to be social with others? - Let's hang out at the Beethoven addition information sign for a bit! That is pretty cool!
But maybe my personal opinion is wrong, of course, and Niantic loves these little signs. I would not hesitate to nominate all the Mozart, Beethoven, Planck, Einstein, Röntgen, Friedrich-Ebert, Streeseman, ... Streets or more precisely: their additional signs.
Even more relevant for me, since it's of course up to me whether or not to nominate them: how should we rate them?
There are, of course, additional signs that are significantly more detailed. In most cases, however, they do not go far beyond the above example.
An impression of the comprehensiveness, from non-existent to half novels, is given by this Google search for additional signs for streets named after Wernher von Braun (there are many pictures for this, since in Germany in many cities there is currently a discussion about renaming streets that have something to do with the Nazi regime, are connected with colonialism, etc.; this discussion is also partly listed on the additional signs and enlarges them additionally):
The huge sign is currently certainly the exception.