sollte dies kein pokostop werden ?
aTwixy-PGO
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Folgende Ablehnungsgründe wurden genannt:
Es konnte nicht hinreichend bestätigt werden, dass der Vorschlag den eingereichten realen Standort wie auf dem Foto und der Kartenansicht repräsentiert., Der Vorschlag scheint eine saisonale Einrichtung oder nicht dauerhaft vorhanden zu sein., Das Foto des Vorschlags zeigt ein Körperteil anstelle eines gültigen Objekts..
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Nein, bloß nicht. 2 von 3 Ablehngründen sind zwar Quatsch, aber das wurde zurecht abgelehnt. Neben saisonale Einrichtung wäre der zweite korrekte Ablehngrund Private Property gewesen. Wir sehen eindeutig einen Baumarkt-Sichtschutz vor einem Einfamilienhaus. Alles rund um Einfamilienhäuser ist tabu gemäß der Ablehnkriterien.
In Europa werden da zwar gern mal für wirklich gute Kandidaten (wie anständige Wandbilder direkt an der Straße) gerne mal die Hühneraugen zugedrückt, da der historisch gewachsene europäische Städtebau nun mal nicht allzu gut in den auf Amerika zugeschnittenen Kriterien wegkommt .... aber für so Do-it-yourself-Pokemon-Quatsch als Kandidat, da werden die meisten Bewerter wohl tun, was Niantic von ihnen erwartet - ohne zu zucken ablehnen....
(und nein: ich bin nicht bloß ein böser Ingress-Spieler, bin selber Lvl 50 in PoGo)
1* - not eligible. Sticking a couple of cutout Pokemon on a fence is not going to get you a Pokestop.
Ich habe es schweren Herzens abgelehnt, da es sich auf einem Privatgrundstück (Einfamilienhaus) zu befinden schien. Aber auch der künstlerische Wert ist nicht allzu hoch. Ich schreibe auch immer eine Begründung dazu, wenn ich etwas ablehne, aber die wird nicht in die Ablehnungs-Email übernommen.
privatgrunsstück ist es nicht frei zugänglich , ausgeschnitten und aufgeklebt ??? nein die wurden in stunden langer arbeit aus holz zurechtgesägt und per hand bemahlt , ist schade das es nicht gewürdigt wird
Even if they would be made of metal, they're still self-made thing put on single family house just to get home-poi. As others mentioned, being on single family house ground is instant rejection, but fabricating something just to get POI is just abuse. Even if something is on single family house fence, it's still considered part of single family house and not eligible.
Try finding something eligible in public place near your location and nominate it: you will get it accepted much easier, and it won't be comsidered abuse. And you will get nice POI that everyone could enjoy to interact too :)
The most easy eligible things to get are playgrounds, sport fields, some monuments or map boards, interesting informational boards (about animals/nature or some historical buildings), churches or other religious buildings/monuments (like crosses). Any of this can't be on any school ground or single family house ground, if they will be in public place, they should be eligible :) Good luck!
These appear to be store bought items and would fall under "mass-produced objects" (Rejection Criteria #1: Does no meet criteria). They also appear to be on the privacy fence of a private single-family home, which further disqualifies it under the private residential property rejection criteria (Rejection Criteria #2: Ineligible location, place, or object).
@aTwixy-PGO Niantic has said that things that are on the fence of a private residence are considered private residential property.
The work is quite good and I'm sure you are proud of your artistic efforts but that doesn't mean that your art meets Niantic's criteria for being a wayspot.
That sounds like DIY alone is the argument to reject. That shouldnt be the cause ....
There are fully legal DIY possibilities. So here an idea for @aTwixy-PGO :
If you have grey boring powerboxes (unimportant if telephone/internet, electricity or gas station) in your area you could ask in your local town hall, who owns them - in most cases a company, sometimes the town government. Then you can ask the owner to allow to paint them. For exampe the Telekom has a form for that, and they want to see a sketch, what you want to draw.
If this would be a valid option in your area I could show you a person who did that few weeks ago.
There are no valid reasons to reject an DIY object like this - a good painting is art and the object is on public accessible ground.
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\edit: A submission of a painted powerbox needs a very good supporting picture, that shows a ot of the surroundings, or a streetview-photosphere. Otherwise, since painted powerboxes are the No.1 fake object in Germany, the expierienced reviewers are highly suspicious reviewing such a nomination - you could end up with a mismatched location or a fake-flag as rejection reasons, if the supporting pic is not helpful to verify that location.
Sorry but you completely missed what my post said so I explain it ;) I wrote that adding something DIY on your single family house to get home-POI added is abuse and it's reason for rejection alone, and being on single family house ground is another reason for rejection. This nomination met at least two rejection reasons, and one is considered abuse.
For information: Almost all DIY all considered abuse - as they're made only to get fake home-POI, and mostly are something that can easily be removed (like DIY informational board about animals/trees, a small shrine bought in a store that was placed on a tree, a movable little figure put on the grass to fake normal small monument etc.). Most of them will be removed from this place after getting POI and will be put in another place (maybe with slight changes of look for informational board) to get another fake POI in close area - it's very common abuse that was reported in this forum many many times. Because of that almost every DIY sugesstions isn't the best idea.
And your exaple isn't exaclty something considered as DIY, as for starter: you mentioned that player need to ask for permission of power company/city management to do some painting/mural in public place (and he/she probably will need to hire someone to do painitng as something self made might looks not interesting enough to get accepted - and as you said it might just look fake). So it will need a support of someone from the city and it should be permament and looks nice - it won't really be something DIY ;)
And you're right it will need to have really good pictures and proof to be accepted, as there is really a lot of fake painted powerboxes in Germany. I know, because I also get some to review too. Sometimes it's very easy to spot some fake ones (both new nominated and existing). It's considered such a big abuse with them, that any nominations with painted powerbox is suspicious at first glance.
TLDR: Adding something DIY on your house ground or on public area close to your home to get home-POI is considered abuse, but asking city management or owners of some place to put/made some mural/information board/monument on public area isn't DIY and isn't considered abuse ;)
And you missed my initial post too, but it was in German xD
I mentioned there too, that evrything on the property of single family homes, including the property border, should be rejected. But since this is very often difficult to distinguish in Germany, some things that could be ineligible, but fortunately the people arent overcautious here. So some big murals at big residential houses, where reviewers can only make guesses about single of multi family occupancy, are often approved. So the people have their own set of thumb rules or special littel hints, that affects their review, if PRP-rejection or to turn a blind eye on that specific nomination. In Murica this is way easier to distinguish 😅
But OPs picture has more than enough hints to reject for private property reasos ....
I only responded to your post in which you quoted my post, so I think your other post are irrelevant to my current answers in discussion ;) I think we explained enough about DIY and other things in this thread, no need to write more :)
Yes, USA and other American countries have it different, but I won't say it's easier for them. Sometimes it's even harder, as they mostly don't have fence so some nominations in public ground but close to private house might still be rejected as PRP as reviewers won't be sure if they're on PRP or not. In Europe it's a bit easier, as in most countries single family houses do have some kind of fence and it's much easier to see if something is on PRP or not :) When I'm not sure if something is on PRP, then I look very closely on area near it, it often will help me get information if it's on PRP or not. But if it still don't help me, I just skip nomination like that. But it's very rare for me to skip anything while reviewing ;)
And yes, OP picture clearly show that it's on PRP, that's why I mentioned that it meet two rejection reaosns. I also agree that it was correct to be rejected :)