Got my upgrades, and they’ve rejected everything
EricNDofWG-PGO
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I’ve been doing Wayfarer for a year and a half and a large majority of my submissions have been accepted, because I don’t submit complete garbage. However, the last four upgrades I’ve used, three of them rewarded from the Russia challenge, have caused four perfectly acceptable nominations to be rejected.
I’ll break them down…
Little Free Pantries are pretty much the equivalent to Little Free Libraries. They get accepted if they’re on public property and rejected if they’re on residential property. This one is at a church, as are a handful of others in town that have been accepted.
Two other bridges that cross the Missouri River along the same walking path were accepted, this one was rejected. One of the accepted ones is a rail-only bridge, so you can’t use the “no pedestrian access” excuse for why this was rejected. It goes directly over a park that has 8 other Wayspots.
Picnic areas are a common easily accepted submission. What’s wrong with this one? It’s under some shade at a local mall. Safely accessible, otherwise it wouldn’t exist at all.
And the scoreboard, well, 7 other scoreboards in the same complex were approved a year ago. This one has been rejected twice now. Do people have a problem with the number 3?
Clearly I’m super heated at the moment and came here to vent, since I’ve waited months for these to get accepted, while other garbage with all kinds of typos in the titles and descriptions have recently been approved. Anyone else having a problem with eligible nominations getting rejected by these recently rewarded upgrades, if you managed to get any at all?
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I think that the main issue is that "Others have been accepted, so this one is also valid"
That's not the correct approach, other nominations might have been wrongly approved, or they might have something different (ranging from the PoI itself to the photo, description, location...) that doesn't allow to compare different nominations in order to state that the new one is valid.
For example, despite your claim that the Little Free Pantries are similar to LFL, they are not and previously a Niantic representative specifically answer such a question stating that they are not valid. The fact that there are some around you approved only shows that the reviewers in your area don't follow the guidelines, and when people from the rest of the US reviewed your nomination rejected it. One of the main reasons that I've heard about rejecting such PoI is that they can be considered as sensitive, as the people that might want to use them might not be comfortable with a group of people playing around with their phones.
In the case of the bridge I would need to see the description and supporting info, judging only by that tiny photo I don't think that this one meets the criteria about exploring or doing exercise.
Nice opinion buddy, too bad it’s wrong. And before you get all high and mighty because you play Ingress instead of PoGo, most of the pantries were submitted by high profile Ingress players in the area. You’d be pissed too if you waited months for acceptable nominations to get instantly rejected with an upgrade.
Just to humor you, here’s the bridge, and my current standing in Wayfarer.
Too bad that your opinion is wrong too. I'm not an Ingress player, I'm a level 48 Trainer.
You have replied again comparing existing PoI with your nomination and the only thing that I've told you is that you shouldn't do that. There are too many approved PoI that should have been rejected with the current rules.
If you've been doing Wayfarer for a year and you're submitting things that don't meet criterias well maybe you've been doing it wrong all along...
I’ll break them down…
Little Free Pantries are pretty much the equivalent to Little Free Libraries. They get accepted if they’re on public property and rejected if they’re on residential property. This one is at a church, as are a handful of others in town that have been accepted.
Clarified as not eligible
Two other bridges that cross the Missouri River along the same walking path were accepted, this one was rejected. One of the accepted ones is a rail-only bridge, so you can’t use the “no pedestrian access” excuse for why this was rejected. It goes directly over a park that has 8 other Wayspots.
Historic is subjective without it being actually declared historic.
Picnic areas are a common easily accepted submission. What’s wrong with this one? It’s under some shade at a local mall. Safely accessible, otherwise it wouldn’t exist at all.
Not true at all, picnic areas are one of the toughest to get past the generic nature of them.
And the scoreboard, well, 7 other scoreboards in the same complex were approved a year ago. This one has been rejected twice now. Do people have a problem with the number 3?
Clarified to being just an extension of a field and not necessarily valid on their own.
Clearly I’m super heated at the moment and came here to vent, since I’ve waited months for these to get accepted, while other garbage with all kinds of typos in the titles and descriptions have recently been approved. Anyone else having a problem with eligible nominations getting rejected by these recently rewarded upgrades, if you managed to get any at all?
None of these were sho in nominations, and only 2 marginally eligible. You cant assume criteria based on what is in game, criteria changes often and non eligible things make it in.
And finally, just because other similar Wayspots exist doesn't mean that these are eligible or that they should have been accepted. Those other Wayspots may have been incorrectly accepted by reviewers who aren't as well versed in the criteria or simply don't care because they want "more Pokestops for everyone!"
My account status speaks otherwise. I’ve reviewed hundreds of bridges, picnic areas, and scoreboards from all over the place, not just my home area. If I’ve been “doing it wrong”, well then dang, do you think my Wayfinder rating would be set to “Great”?
And the excuse that “people are uncomfortable visiting pantries with people hanging around them on their phone” is pretty pathetic, since little free libraries are the same concept, with books instead of food.
Just wanna see some consistency. Curious to see what you people are submitting.
you wanna see consistency but then you confirm you approve ineligible things... adding to the inconsistencies.
At this point, this would be a better discussion for this part of the forum since you don't seem to know what is or is not a good wayspot.
https://community.wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/categories/criteria-clarifications
While I didn't participate I have upgrades going through during the same time period:
The only public wharf in a town - approved upgraded
A sign for a combination boat ramp and park - approved upgraded
Plaque for historic home currently used as business - rejected not upgraded
Infographic about the importance of natural plants and runoff - approved upgraded
Exercise station - accepted not upgraded
The historic plaque had simliar ones accepted in the past but it was rejected by local reviewers. Although inconsistency is annoying, I don't think it's upgrades causing the inconsistency. But yes recently upgrades are being approved.
First of all, @EricNDofWG-PGO you shouldnt **** people by telling Them that they are p*****.
Your Attitude clearly shows the Anger you have.
Your Submissions were rejected. The reviewers did a good Job there.
If you want to resubmit them, you might be lucky and one will get accepted.
Otherwise, you could Read the Rules and submit Things that are better suited.
Also, you might try to find a Game and Community that suits your Attitude.
You're showing a total lack of empathy with the people that might use those pantry boxes. They are not the same concept at all.
A Little food pantry is used by people that lack the money to buy those items, and due to cultural and education issues it should be easy to understand that some people might not want that other neighbors realize that they are in such a dire situation that they need this help.
A little free library works on a different concept: Take one, leave one. If you're a book reader you might find yourself that your buying books and then you end up without enough space to store them, so by using these boxes you can exchange them with your neighbors, it's just like a library, but in small size.