What could I do better…?

This one for me meets all requirements- part of a coastal footpath, accessible by a pavement, in a location with only one other waypoint. But rejected? Have I missed something?


  • Theisman-INGTheisman-ING Posts: 1,001 ✭✭✭✭✭

    For a start a new title, you've called it beach when you're actually submitting a footpath sign.

    Is it an offical trail or is it just a generic footpath ? . If its a trail then get rid of the part in the support statement about the other wayspot and include a web link to the trail information.

    Also "sell" the submission, your description is lackluster, the best bits are in the support statement, move them over to the description, and use the support statement to provide information.

  • Phylgi-PGOPhylgi-PGO Posts: 7 ✭✭

    I agree with @Theisman-ING . You could say this is the Starting Point of a trail leading to SunnySide, that can only be reached by foot through lands and cliffs...

  • NethyTobster-PGONethyTobster-PGO Posts: 6 ✭✭

    Thanks all, I’ll try being a bit more poetic with my description. You can only get to Sunnyside by footpath! I’d tried to be factual but will enhance it.

    i cropped the screenshot badly, the full title is ok I think?

    I also upgraded it, think next time will just stick to local review.

  • TheZodiac007-PGOTheZodiac007-PGO Posts: 860 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2021

    @NethyTobster-PGO Coastal Footpath Trailhead. If there are links anywhere that tell about it in government websites, etc include them in supporting info. If have to use Wikipedia

  • TheFarix-PGOTheFarix-PGO Posts: 4,976 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I would have titled it "Sunnyside Beach Public Access". I've been personally considering nominating all the Public Access Sites in my local area, all of which are maintained by the state DNR.

  • NethyTobster-PGONethyTobster-PGO Posts: 6 ✭✭

    Ah, I give up. There is a red Royal Mail post/mailbox about 20m north on the pavement. To my mind not as good a waypoint, but I know they get accepted so I’ll submit that instead. I guess the community just doesn’t like trail markers / footpath signs.

  • sogNinjaman-INGsogNinjaman-ING Posts: 3,313 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's a signpost pointing to a POI, but is not eligible as a POI in it's own right. A "Public Footpath" is not an eligible marker, we need a trail name - "Costal footpath to the beach" is not good enough.

  • Oakes1923-PGOOakes1923-PGO Posts: 419 ✭✭✭✭

    Coastal Footpath would certainly be considered a great place to exercise and or explore. The sign would act as your anchor point for this POI. Perfectly acceptable. I would not give up on it yet. Although I know trail markers are a hard sell in Europe for some reason.

  • sogNinjaman-INGsogNinjaman-ING Posts: 3,313 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The "Community" likes trail markers, but you don't have one here, you have a signpost. "Public Footpath" signs and "EIIR" postboxes are automatic rejections - mass produced items.

  • Oakes1923-PGOOakes1923-PGO Posts: 419 ✭✭✭✭

    Synonym for footpath: walkway, bridleway, pathway, trail, path, bridlepaths, footbridge, towpath, footway

    Signpost; Noun: An object or feature that is easily seen and used to establish one's location

    Synonyms: pointer indicator, marker, wayspot, sign, mark, milepost, milestone landmark

    So Coastal Footpath can also be read as Coastal TRAIL MARKER.

    I love that merrian webster literally gave me Wayspot when I asked it for synonyms of signpost. The internet wins again.

  • TheZodiac007-PGOTheZodiac007-PGO Posts: 860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I have a feeling with a better name, this could get accepted. The name of the trail is Coastal Footpath & this is the trailhead for it. It is going to Sunnyside Beach. You may not tell them it’s a great place to explore. The pics look good enough to tell that. I think what reviewers may not be seeing is the ledges that show the footpath as separate from the road. It is visible in your photos, the reviewers may think this is just a road & not see the footpath

  • sogNinjaman-INGsogNinjaman-ING Posts: 3,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited July 2021

    If there is a trail with the official name "Coastal Footpath" listed on one of the various Council / walkers / ramblers websites then I would accept that as a named trail. However, at present, I read this as a descriptive sign, ie the footpath is on the coast. In the UK, "Public Footpaths", "Public Bridleways"and "Permissive Path" markers are far too common and generic to count as a named trail. A public footpath can form part or all of the route of a named trail, but until I see a trail maker with the name of the trail, just "Public Footpath" is a 1* submission.

  • TheZodiac007-PGOTheZodiac007-PGO Posts: 860 ✭✭✭✭✭

    The trail is called Coastal Footpath. It just goes to Sunnyside Beach. That’s the name of the trail. Coastal Footpath. Those are grounds for it to be accepted. There’s a sign showing it. I believe reviewers don’t realize that the sidewalk is the trail near the road. They may see the road, rocks, grass, cliff & beach & think where’s the footpath (trail) The scenery may be too much. @NethyTobster-PGO, just show the footpath & where it is along the road. Place the POI on the sign.

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