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  • patsufredo-PGOpatsufredo-PGO Posts: 1,314 ✭✭✭✭✭

    If the news bulletin board is just like information board then I'd assume they might be eligible.

    Just to make sure that, there are some people who believe they're not eligible instead and then trying to report you in this forum.

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  • GNTGo7-PGOGNTGo7-PGO Posts: 4 ✭✭

    I don't think all Japanese bulletin boards are ineligible.

    Also, I don't think that all Japanese bulletin boards are eligible.

    The reason why bulletin boards do not pass the examination in Japan is that many judges do not think that Japanese bulletin boards provide important information.

    If the judges think the bulletin board provides important information, the bulletin board has passed more.

    1. In Japan, if you are a member of a neighborhood association, you will see a board called "Kairanban" that notifies you of the contact from the neighborhood association.

    Due to the existence of "Kairanban", the bulletin board has a redundant mechanism.

    Japanese bulletin boards, which only post one-sided information and are updated infrequently, are rarely used.

    2. Many bulletin boards are weathered

    3. Recently, many people do not join the neighborhood association.

    Such people are not interested in the neighborhood association, so they do not look at the bulletin board of the neighborhood association.

    For reasons 1., 2. and 3., I think Japanese bulletin boards have a low rating.

    I think that a bulletin board that has been devised to catch the eye and is well maintained is suitable.

  • RedActedS-PGORedActedS-PGO Posts: 72 ✭✭

    1. The frequency of updates depends on the town council. How does a reviewer find out how often it is updated too?

    2. Many things fade away. However, the more active the town council, the more repairs are done. How does a reviewer know if a town council is active?

    3. Recently, more and more municipalities have started to distribute relief supplies in the event of a disaster by grouping them in town councils in order to make distribution more efficient. By doing so, local governments are encouraging people to join town councils. In addition, bulletin boards exist to inform non-participants of what the town council is doing, and they also exist to cover the Kairanban system.

    As mentioned above, people who don't use the BBS, or any other system for that matter, deny its importance because they don't know about it.

    You need to write a supplementary text to tell the people who don't know why it is important.

  • tp235-INGtp235-ING Posts: 255 ✭✭✭

    I think the key is how often it is updated, and whether there is a two-way exchange of information.

    As others have already mentioned, most of the public bulletin boards in Japan are one-way information, and their update frequency is not high.

    In addition, the government is shifting from public bulletin boards to social networking services and instant messengers in order to improve the efficiency of information transmission.

    You have probably seen the websites, Facebook, and LINE of the municipalities in Japan where you live.

    Japan has a characteristic of having a very large number of public meeting places, where in other countries, churches, temples and Buddhist shrines often play a role in promoting interaction.

    And some of these meeting places are aging, and although the buildings exist, there are many meeting places that have already ceased to be used and have been abandoned.

    In such a situation, public bulletin boards in Japan would not meet the standards unless they are very good.

    If you can understand the essence of Niantic's location-based games and the significance of the POI that forms the basis of them, you will naturally understand what qualifies.









  • GNTGo7-PGOGNTGo7-PGO Posts: 4 ✭✭

    1. Check the application photo and Street View.

    If information that can be judged objectively is provided, we will refer to it.

    2. Judgment will be made based on the application photo and Street View.

    If you attach a URL that shows the activity record of the residents' association to the supplementary text, we will use it as a reference.

    Also, last year and this year we couldn't hold an event in Corona, so we had a surplus budget.

    Equipment such as bulletin boards were repaired.

    Or, depending on the residents'association, the residents' association fee was refunded.

    3. Recently, local governments send information via homepages, emails to registrants, and SNS (there are many LINEs in Japan), so there is no need to look at the bulletin board.

    I thought that I was the only one who didn't attach importance to the bulletin board, so I asked him at work, but he said he wouldn't look at the bulletin board.

    I was told that I wouldn't bother to go to the bulletin board because the local government has a homepage, emails to registrants, SNS and a circulation board.

    Some of the people I investigated were vice presidents of the neighborhood association, but said they didn't know where the bulletin board was.

    We surveyed seven people, including women, but I don't think they are biased toward a specific area because they are from homes that are reasonably far from the workplace.

    Many bulletin boards in Japan have been denied by the examination.

    I think that is the answer to many Japanese bulletin boards.

    The aging of residents' associations has made it difficult to operate.

    Apart from that, the number of people who do not join the residents' association is increasing.

    Along with that, the dissolution of residents' associations is increasing.

    It is estimated that the importance of bulletin boards will further decline.

    I'm happy when the bulletin board becomes a pocket stop.

    Whether the bulletin board is eligible as a spot is another story.

    However, I think that bulletin boards with eye-catching ingenuity are eligible.






















  • RedActedS-PGORedActedS-PGO Posts: 72 ✭✭



    I could see that you two don't understand because you don't look at the bulletin board.

    Local community bulletin boards don't just post publicity from the local government. They may post various things such as local events, festivals, community cleanup, crime prevention, disaster prevention, and so on.

    Some neighborhood associations are also using social networking services (SNS) to keep up with today's generation (to increase the number of members), but they are still using both SNS and community bulletin boards for the generations that do not use SNS.

    The details are not limited to each municipality, but each neighborhood association has its own way of doing things.

    There are also differences between urban areas where people change rapidly, suburban bedroom communities, and depopulated rural areas.


    This is the website of Saitama City: "In order to promote mutual understanding among local residents and the creation of a livable society, we have set up a bulletin board to promote community activities of residents' associations and publicity about the city government. There is a sentence like this.

    The bulletin board is set up to promote community activities.

    Doesn't this qualify as an "social with others"?

    I'm not sure if it does or does not meet the criteria.

    I think it looks boring to most people because it looks similar to each other.

    But is that a question of eligibility for interaction?

    In the past, ingress has handled the nomination and review process, and even though it has become more comprehensive with the revamped criteria from that relationship, the

    Isn't there too much emphasis on the eligibility of "exploration," such as historical and artistic, and confusing the respective eligibility of "exercise" and "social with others"?

    The approval criteria states that "Must meet at least one of the three eligibility criteria.

    I think the evaluation should be higher if the other eligibility criteria are also met, but wouldn't it be ignoring the approval criteria to say that a product is ineligible because it does not meet the other eligibility criteria?
















    承認基準には「3つの適性基準のうち、少なくとも1つを満たしている必要があります 」とあります。


  • tp235-INGtp235-ING Posts: 255 ✭✭✭

    ”Local community bulletin boards don't just post publicity from the local government. They may post various things such as local events, festivals, community cleanup, crime prevention, disaster prevention, and so on.”

    I think that most bulletin boards in Japan are almost exclusively one-way announcements, including those that are not public announcements from the local government.

    And in some cities, the importance is completely lost and there is not even a bulletin board itself.

    In Japan, information boards The fact is that the boards are of that level of priority, except for players who think that they all qualify as POIs.

    However, as you say, if you can objectively show the judges that there is a two-way exchange of information going on there, and not just a misrepresentation, then there is a chance they will accept it as a Wayspot.






  • RedActedS-PGORedActedS-PGO Posts: 72 ✭✭

    The eligibility of "social with others" does not say that it has to be "interactive".

    The criteria says "something that draws us together to share an experience in a locally and culturally relevant way.

    This applies to announcements of community festivals, events, etc., so if you're asking whether or not it qualifies, it does.

    Of course, as you say, in some cities and towns, there may not even be a community bulletin board itself.

    However, if there is not, then it is not an appropriate candidate for wayspot, so that is not a point to mention.

    As I mentioned above, the importance of community bulletin boards varies from city to city, suburb to suburb, and depopulated area to depopulated area.

    I think it is best to be able to give a review that is appropriate for the area, rather than just rejecting it because you don't know it, but as a matter of knowledge, I would be happy if you would recognize that community bulletin boards in Japan are also a place where detailed local information is transmitted that is not transmitted on local government SNS.

    Also, I think the beauty of wayfarer is that you can see knowledge and viewpoints that you never knew existed. Let's continue to enjoy the reviews.


    "social with others"の適格性には「双方向」である必要は書かれていないですね。

    基準には"something that draws us together to share an experience in a locally and culturally relevant way."と書かれています。







  • GNTGo7-PGOGNTGo7-PGO Posts: 4 ✭✭

    It seems to be misunderstood, but I don't think the bulletin board is important, but I'm not saying I haven't seen it.

    My colleagues said they wouldn't see it.

    If you go to parks, public halls, temples, shrines, etc., you will naturally see the bulletin board.

    On top of that, the update interval of the bulletin board is long, and the judgment is based on the actual experience of not seeing anyone watching.

    I think that is the same for @ tp235-ING.

    When I asked my colleagues if what I thought was correct in the actual experience, they answered that they did not use the bulletin board.

    I think that is the reality of many Japanese people.

    Bulletin boards in the same town have almost the same shape and the same content.

    If you go to parks, public halls, temples, shrines, etc., you will naturally see the bulletin board.

    Bulletin boards that can be posted by anyone in the UK are attracting a lot of attention from the residents and can be said to be a place for "exchange".

    It seems that the percentage of approval was originally about half.

    The bulletin board system in Japan is a one-way contact from the local government and residents' association, and it is hard to say that it is a place for "exchange" because the attention of the residents is low.

    I think there is a higher probability that you will go to the garbage collection area next to the bulletin board to dump the garbage and meet other residents than if you come to see the bulletin board and meet other residents.

    I think the approval rate in Japan is around 10%.

    Some neighborhood associations are difficult to maintain.


    Isn't this fact the reason why local governments encourage members to join residents' associations?

    I think there are differences depending on the region regarding the use of bulletin boards.

    If it is a bulletin board that is often used, I think that it has been devised to be eye-catching and the posted notices are not tanned.

    If it is such a bulletin board, I think that it will be communicated to the judges with photos and explanations or Street View.

    I have a question.

    Do you think that all municipal bulletin boards should be approved regardless of usage?

    For example, if the applicant prints and pastes the information of the local government on a bulletin board that is not in use, the bulletin board that is likely to be used can be disguised.

    Once this is approved, I don't think it can be deleted after that.

    Wouldn't it be nice to have a well-maintained (not very damaged) bulletin board with eye-catching ingenuity?





    それは、@tp235-ING さんも同じではないかと思います。





















  • RedActedS-PGORedActedS-PGO Posts: 72 ✭✭

    Again, the importance of a community bulletin board varies depending on the region (e.g. urban, suburban, depopulated).

    Also, the "social with others" criterion does not say that there has to be two-way interaction, but it does say "something that draws us together to share an experience in a locally and culturally relevant way. There is a sentence that says "something that draws us together to share an experience in a locally and culturally relevant way.

    So, if you judge that something is not used in some areas because it is not used in others, you are judging without looking at things individually. On the other hand, it would be a mistake to assume that because something is used in other areas, it is also used in other areas, so we need to judge each nominated item individually, not by type.

    Eligibility = Approval

    I think it's a mistake to assume that this is the case.

    Can't you delete something if it's approved?

    The decision to delete is made by the administration, right?

    Is the role of wayfinder to find things to delete?

    If the item is no longer there, you can report it and it will be removed as not existing.

    If the item is no longer there, you can report it and it will be removed as if it never existed, and leave the rest to the administration.



    また「social with others」の基準は双方向の交流がないといけないとは書いておらず「something that draws us together to share an experience in a locally and culturally relevant way.」の一文はあります。









  • GNTGo7-PGOGNTGo7-PGO Posts: 4 ✭✭

    Certainly no two-way is required.

    The only problem is that the Japanese bulletin boards are not attracting the attention of the residents, as opposed to the British bulletin boards.

    However, this is a story of a general bulletin board system in Japan, and I think that the bulletin board system may be attracting attention and becoming a place of exchange depending on the region.

    I think that the judge should judge it for each application on each bulletin board.

    Some bulletin boards of Japanese residents' associations are qualified and some are not.

    If the judge judges that the bulletin board is not "a place where you can interact" or "the best place for exploration", it will be judged that the application criteria are not met.

    It would be great if game users could actively participate in the residents' association and make proposals that would make the bulletin board a place for interaction.








  • RedActedS-PGORedActedS-PGO Posts: 72 ✭✭

    The eligibility of the "social with others" does not ask if it is noteworthy.

    As you can see by the fact that the Free Little Library is listed as an example.

    However, I think it is easier to give a higher individual rating if it is noteworthy, and I think it is easier to get approval if there is useful information in the supplementary material.

    If the neighborhood association doesn't function well, the gutters can get clogged with garbage and overflow with rainwater. It's a shame that many people don't understand what the neighborhood association does or why it exists, and see it as a hassle rather than being interested in the board.

    It's a pity that many people don't understand what the neighborhood association does and why it exists, and see it as a hassle. As NIA holds events for picking up trash, I would like to take an interest in local autonomy even through games, and accumulate small things that each of us can do.



    Free Little Libraryが例に載ってる事で分かる様に。




  • tp235-INGtp235-ING Posts: 255 ✭✭✭


    It seems to me that you are repeatedly quibbling to get the word out that you approve of bulletin boards that never get any attention in Japan.

    We are not 100% disallowing forums, but we are saying that most of them are disallowed for the reasons stated here, because they rarely meet the requirements in Japan.

    And we have seen that you have argued differently in the past about offers involving obscene titles and descriptions.

    Therefore, I don't think you understand the criteria correctly.






  • RedActedS-PGORedActedS-PGO Posts: 72 ✭✭

    A quibble is a convoluted argument, but where in the social with others criteria does it say "no one way" or "if it's not important in some areas, it's not important in others"?

    I'm guessing it's not important in the places you know.

    In the suburbs where I live, the residents' association is very active, and right now they have postings about the corona vaccine and announce that this year's summer festival has been cancelled.

    Maybe next month there will be a notice about the Autumn Festival, whether it will be held or not.

    Please understand that even in Japan, there are differences between regions.

    What is more complicated, your own standard that is not officially written or the argument that it falls under this part of the official standard?

    The OP is being asked if he is eligible.

    If you bring up your own criteria, which is not officially stated, you can make any object "not meet the requirements".

    If you are going to discuss this, please talk about it based on the official criteria.

    By the way, where was the discussion about the "B district"?

    I don't think there was any discussion about it, because both sides just stated their own opinions.

    I don't think that discussion is just to call the other side "quibbling" or "not understanding the criteria" without any counter-argument because their opinion doesn't make sense, so I hope you will take that into consideration in your next response.


    屁理屈とはこじ付けの論の事ですが、social with othersの基準の何処に「一方通行はダメ」や「一部の地域の中で重要性がない物は他の地域でもダメ」と書かれていますか?












  • tp235-INGtp235-ING Posts: 255 ✭✭✭

    You are free to think that information boards are appropriate in Japan.

    However, it is the opinion of most players that there are few forums in Japan that promote "social with others" as the UK does.

    In addition, most Japanese people do not consider the BBS to be an important place for "social with others".

    This is the common sense of Japanese people.

    And, of course, the information board does not promote exploration and exercise.

    Therefore, it is difficult to admit that they are qualified.

    In addition to the above reasons, it is not a 100% rejection because it is not an inappropriate place or thing.

    If there is an information board that promotes "social with others" and you can objectively prove it, you can get approval.

    This is the general view.


    しかし日本では 英国のように人々との交流を促進している情報掲示板はほとんど存在していないというのが大半のプレイヤーの見解です。








  • RedActedS-PGORedActedS-PGO Posts: 72 ✭✭

    Information that the municipality is even offering subsidies on its website to promote mutual understanding among local residents and the creation of a livable community


    You don't provide any data, and you don't even know who the majority of the players are.

    Which is the more officially correct information?

    Please provide us with data that can overturn the information on the municipal website.

    I think it is more "quibbling" to argue with someone who is presenting official information with data that has no basis in fact.







  • tp235-INGtp235-ING Posts: 255 ✭✭✭

    You can argue all you want, but only "some Pokémon Go users living in Japan" would bring up the UK standards and claim that the Japanese information boards are acceptable.

    You can nominate Japanese forums as Wayspot candidates as often as you like.

    Please explain what you think and why.

    Then players with location data in Japan will review your nomination.

    That will be the right answer for you.






  • RedActedS-PGORedActedS-PGO Posts: 72 ✭✭

    The help page doesn't say that it's a UK community notice board, but it does say it in Japanese as eligibility for social with others, so please read it again.

    I am talking about the social with others eligibility part of the official help page.

    I've already shown you the evidence many times.

    You are the one who has not been able to provide evidence, so please check your own statement again.






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