African Wayspots
CUTEeeDragonite-PGO
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I sometimes hear African countries don't have enough wayspots.
I want to know how many wayspots each country of Africa has.
≦100? ≦1000? ≦10000?
Does anyone know about?
And what country especially needs reviewers and cannot enjoy playing due to lack of wayspots?
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It does seem to be cell-based.
For instance, in my region NR04-GOLF-14 is working: everything gets approved in less than a week. Whereas nominations in the neighboring NR04-FOXTROT-03 are completely stuck: nothing in it has got getting approved without upgrades since late May. I've submitted multiple nominations to both cells, and the split is easy to notice.
The crux of the problem is that the pending unresolved nominations hurt your rating: pending is counted the same as disagreements. And now, because of this problem with some of the cells, there's far more unresolved nominations stuck in voting than usual. So more you rate, the more you hurt your rating.
Unresolved nominations don't hurt the official rating... But anyway, what is the relation with what the OP said?
After enjoying the Russia Challenge, I decided I liked reviewing faraway nominations. And I was getting bored with things in my bonus location. So I picked a new bonus location in AF15-HOTEL-04 (rural central Kenya) with overlap into the edge of AF15-HOTEL-03 and AF-JULIET-03. I chose this part of Kenya because it was a place where I briefly lived a few decades ago and the language of commerce is English.
The first three days were fun, and I reviewed 7 wayspots: 5 good ones, one duplicate, and one primary school reject. In the process, I only noted maybe 10 existing wayspots on the "Check for Duplicates" maps and they were clustered in one town. The problem is that I haven't seen a wayspot from Kenya for five weeks since I suspect I've reviewed every nomination within the specified area.
From the little I've seen, PoGo and HPWU would be unplayable here, except for the one town that has the cluster in it. I don't know how anyone could have leveled up to be able to nominate anything. Which is probably why there aren't any nominations to review.
If the density is constant across the country, I would suspect there are maybe 300 to 1,000 wayspots in Kenya. But my working theory is that Africa is a lot like Russia in that the major cities and tourist centers have easily 500 times the density of wayspots.and nominations to be reviewed. So my guess is 10,000 to 20,000 in Kenya.
If you have an Ingress account you can you the mission creator tool to get a glimpse of the number of Wayspots.
For example here is Kenya.
Unless your city is very inorganically built, there are many places that can be approved as Wayspots.
Personally, I believe that the potential number of Wayspots is about 1/100 of the urban population of a developed country.
If the city has history and historic sites, the number is higher than 1/100, otherwise it is lower.
In Africa, there are 130,000 sites in Lagos.
Potentially, there are about this many.
OK. 1,800 in Kenya. I'm really surprised how few are in Mombasa and the beach resorts to the north frequented by Europeans.
It's also interesting to see ZERO in the large and popular national park (Masai Mara), but 98 in Amboseli.
I appreciate the map. (I'm not an Ingress guy.) So basically there are 18 wayspots in the area I'm reviewing. The five I upvoted are either 30% of the existing ones or (more likely) the entire queue waiting to be approved.
Here is the latest list I try to keep updated. Might be errors in it, but I think it at least gives a decent overview.
Where do you get the information from for this list?
I sum the numbers given from the ingress mission creator tool. Problem is that the map sums poi based on s2 cells rather than borders. So it is not easy getting exact numbers. Also, I don’t think sponsored poi is visible on it.
Super simple idea with the mission tool!
At first I couldn't believe your table, but the tool has confirmed: in fact, even my hometown of 20,000 people has more wayspots than Tanzania.
Really enlightening information (table and mission tool usage), thank you!
I just moved to Kigali, Rwanda (~1.2M inhabitants) and it has ~50 wayspots by now. I think ~83 in the whole country should be right.
I already started submitting/reviewing and have 15 wayspots in voting at the moment.I will keep going to submit for sure.
There are a lot of stuff to submit here. Mobile network is pretty good so it's definitely possible to play if we can create enough Wayspots.
I definitely could need some reviewers to help to create new wayspots
@NianticTintino It would be interesting for people that review a lot to help out such countries by moving their bonus location there temporarily. Can something like this be implemented? I would love to help out countries with a small number of wayspots and in this way get to virtually travel there and see the hidden gems!
We (me, among people I have met on various game related hubs and FB pages) have done something like this. We've managed to improve Greenland, Ivory Coast, Guinea, The Comores, Botswana, and the Solomon Islands so far. At least Greenland and CIV are now even self sufficient in reviewers and can handle their own fully. It's been great fun helping out, and also seeing the nominations. It's a little like virtual tourism. :)
But the lessened reviewing area (from 1+8 L6 to L7 cells) certainly hurts, and a full year isn't really necessary to get things moving. So restoring the greater area and making it possible to change locations more often would be great.
For more in-depth descriptions and more about the efforts made in Africa, both older and ongoing, there is now a Facebook group, at https://www.facebook.com/groups/366652355527884. Other areas, like Greenland and Iraq, is also mentioned in there.
Much of the same info is also on https://www.facebook.com/groups/WayfarerGlobalReviewers (although, that is a private group).
Most recent area we are trying to start up is Guinea / Sierra Leone in West Africa. :)
Hey, question. Does Niger (the country) ever have issues with censorship and dealing with the lunacy that is Niantic's trip filters?
Any news about sudden cluster at somewhere in Africa that was reported here long ago? Kinda forgot who was the one posted the report here, or which country where the cluster located.
If it was a cluster of stops in Kongo-Kinshasa, they were removed. The number of stops in the country went down from 225 to 155, so I guess they found even more.
Not that I know of. The small effort made there was quite successful.
Hmm, lucky. Perhaps as long as the country's name is not in the wayspot title, it might just slip by fine.
Well, I might have a look at some of the efforts and where the help is needed most. Might change my bonus location and help a community that deserves it better.
If you wonder anything about the different areas, just ask, and we’ll try to answer as good as we can. :)