Why Don’t Reviewers Slow Down and Explain Rejections
TennRaider-PGO
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Reviewers are in a privileged position. We learn (hopefully) the nomination criteria then we use our best judgment about what makes a good Wayspot nomination.
Here, in my opinion, is where almost all reviewers I know fall down on the job. Many are motivated to rush through nominations in order to maximize the number of agreements they get so they can quickly upgrade their own personal nominations.
As a result, very few bother typing in the reason they reject or poorly rate a nomination. They often choose one of the “preset” rejection clauses and simply move on.
Both as a reviewer and as a frequent submitter, I find this practice infuriating. There is nothing more frustrating than having a nomination rejected and all I get as a reason is something like “Other rejection criteria,” which is totally useless information.
Other times I get rejected for an issue I addressed in the supplemental section The information appears to be completely ignored by many reviewers.
That is why I beseech you, my fellow reviewers, to slow down and take just a few seconds to fully read a nomination before rejecting it. Also, if you do poorly rate or reject a nomination, how about typing in a few personal sentences explaining why you made your choice.
These two simple actions not only help improve the quality of future submissions, they also turn the emotions down a bit and not think that their nomination was not just casually tossed aside.
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I generally do this, as do many others - but those comments are never passed along to the submitter, so you'll likely see no benefit.
You do know that no one will ever see those comments? Fellow reviewers don't get that info when they review the same nomination and also the submitter will never get that info... Rejection mails never include what the reviewer has written.
The only benefit is that it takes longer, and by that it's easier to avoid cooldowns.
In the beginning of my Wayfarer days, I used to type comments for the submitter to read and in case Niantic "audited" me or something. I soon found out that neither thing occurs, so I stopped wasting time on that. In theory, it would be great to have peer-to-peer feedback on the nomination rejection email, but I shudder to think how opening that direct channel of communication would be abused in practice.
Exactly... I also used to always do this (still do it sometimes), but it feels useless, as it seems nobody reads them.
For those saying that nobody reads them. You can read them!
If you make a GDPR request to Niantic of your data, you will see all the rejection reasons you’ve typed in as part of the data. Just thought I’d mention this random bit of useless information.
Figured out where I’m storing my grocery list from now on
i doo, atleast small-short one. But does anyone see it anyways?
I thought most 'newly' reviewers are having the same fate—4h to 24h cooldowns, no nominations to review, being stuck on fair/poor rating? Those are the most reviewer-side complaints you can see everyday in this forum.
Either them are pretty new in Wayfarer and most likely made many mistakes by wrongly rejecting nominations, or trying to 'rush' everything in order to get upgrades by either reject everything they see, or accept them all instead.
About the comments, while I do fill them as necessary, did anyone notice that you can skip the comment if you choose "doesn't meet criteria" reason (which previously required)?
Nobody sees it. Niantic could if they chose to, perhaps if they were hand-reviewing a candidate for some reason, but I think that happens essentially never.
Interesting. It makes me a little sad to learn that these comments are not being passed along.
Still, I did notice that when I started leaving comments on my poor reviews that my reviewer rating rapidly increased from “Fair” to “Great.” I’m not sure if this was a coincidence or not, but it perhaps implies that someone with some control of the forum settings is reading the comments.
Either way, having to articulate my objections to a particular submission really does make think about what I am doing and helps me become a better reviewer. I think I will continue the practice, even if it just benefits me.
Thanks everyone!
I, too, used to leave comments for the submitter. I thought they would see them so I would make a short note as to why it was rejected and sometimes how they could improve it. I was sad to find out no one sees them. I don’t even see the point of having a comment box then.
The amount of expletives and disdain for the amount of fakes that I have put especially regarding all the abuse spoofer cases that I've reported in this post would be both useful, and absolutely abhorrent (and very rarely, offensive on my part). I only do so because I'm accessing this public avenue of reporting and commentating on these nominations, so no one else sees . Take a screenshot of the review, throw some expletives and distasteful comments that really no one reads in the comments box at it while waiting for the submit delay (20-25 seconds) so I don't get a cooldown, and then submit.
Maybe it is the expletives that I put that discourage anyone from reading these additional comments, but they were rarely (if ever) read in the first place.
most wayspot i reviewed usually has this issue.
a. Photo usually got people inside, photo got car plate number, photo orientation not strict directly to the object but taken from 45 deg. look messy.
b. trainer not submit streetview photo. Usually google maps not update and used old photosphere and all wayspot trainer summited not exist on google maps provided. So I have no choice and need to rate 1 star.
c. photo blur
d. Main photo put at supporting photo and supporting photo as main photo. dont know why this kind of trainer did this.
you can explain if you want to, there is a little square that you can fill, however whatever you type it wont be send or seen by the submitter, some people dont type anything because there is no real benefit to it
the day niantic atleast randomly select some reason and send it to the submitter we might see some changes, such people actually to care about to type something in that square and give a real reason as well feedback to the submitter