About Pokémon manholes in Japan
Markov2097-ING
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In Japan, manholes with Pokémon designs have been installed in many places.
These are sponsored spots in Pokémon GO and can be used as PokéStops regardless of their distance from other spots. However, unlike Itoen's vending machines and SoftBank, they are exclusive to Pokémon GO and will not appear on the Wayfarer screening screen.
So, does this manhole qualify as a spot that can be used in other games?
That said, other Pokémon GO-only sponsored spots, such as Yoshinoya and Matsumoto Kiyoshi, are obviously generic businesses and ineligible, but each of these manholes has a different design and is not mass-produced. Depending on the object, it may be an image of the unique features of the area, and functions as a tourist attraction that also promotes the area.
So is it a qualified act to apply for it as a regular spot, saying that it is too good to be limited to Pokémon Go?
From the perspective of inappropriateness, it may be considered that there is a specific game term provided by niantic that is not unique and can be found all over the country if lumped under the category of Pokémon manholes.
Please let me know your opinions.
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I'll clarify, @Markov2097-ING! Sponsored locations are directly ingested into our products and have a different set of criteria. Speaking of submissions, they should be judged normally based on Wayfarer guidelines and if these are mass-produced objects, they should be rejected.
Based on Giffords answer, I'd say go for it, assuming they aren't in the middle of the road, if I was to see one of them, I would accept it so long as it didn't meet any rejection criteria. Just avoid saying pokemon go, can say pokemon, explain the main series game, explain the pokemon itself, just don't mention go
@NianticGiffard
I am also very interested in this matter.
I would like to add some additional information based on my experience.
The "Pokémon Manhole" is a unique and original item that Pokémon Inc. donates to cities, towns, and villages all over Japan, and the cities, towns, and villages place them in places in their cities where they want to attract people's attention.
In this respect, I think it fulfills the requirements of a Wayspot.
And, in fact, it will appear on the Pokémon GO field in a manner consistent with a sponsored Wayspot.
Ingress and Harry Potter: Wizards Unite will not appear on the field.
However, when it comes to Wayfarer, the story becomes wrong.
Currently, if you nominate this Pokémon manhole using the Wayfarer system when the following conditions are met, you will be able to duplicate this unique and original manhole fake.
This can be called a bug in the current Wayfarer screening system and is easy to exploit.
(1) There are no existing Wayspots in a certain level of cells.
(2) The nominated location information is far enough away from the existing Wayspot.
(3) The nomination is approved after a certain level of evaluation.
・Duplicate pokestops.
・Genuine Pokestop.
・Fake Pokestop
・Ingress Portal
When this happens, you will see two Wayspots on Pokémon GO, a genuine one and a fake one, displayed as shown in the picture.
In other games, only the fake one shows up.
I think this bug seriously damages the value of the Pokémon manholes donated by Pokémon Inc. and the system that allows you to gift points of interest to your friends.
How do you feel when you are given a gift that you know is fake?
Normally, people don't smile when they receive a fake gift.
So, in addition to fixing this bug, I would like to ask for clarification of the standards and rules.
P.S
Wayspot has since applied to remove the fake from Pokémon GO due to duplication, and now only the genuine one appears in Pokémon GO and the fake one in Ingress.
You can see it here.
https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=43.87503,142.47175&z=17&pll=43.87503,142.47175
Translated with www.DeepL.com/Translator (free version)
Technically it's not fake, as it does exist in real life, and it won't be in ingress (the sponsored one I mean) But you are right, that is a weird bug to encounter
Did TPCI themshelves also agreed that duplicated, non-sponsored Pokemon manholes showed up in Ingress and HPWU, too, as showed by @tp235-ING ?
This might be a translation issue, but calling those manholes "fakes" is wrong. They do exist, their location seems to be correct, so any Ingress player might want to nominate them as those PoI are not in their game, and the only issue is that they show up as duplicates in Pokemon Go.
As long as TPC provides the real manholes as well as put them as sponsored pokestops in the game, I don't see a good solution, but please, don't call them fakes.
I am indeed not sure if Pokémon Inc. thinks it is okay for this Wayspot to appear in games other than Pokémon GO.
However, from what I've seen, when Niantic brings the Pokémon Manhole into the game, it only appears in Pokémon GO.
They do not appear in Ingress or HPWU.
The ones currently showing up in Ingress and HPWU are unofficial ones that players have replicated using Wayfarer.
I mean official and unofficial, as in genuine and fake.
It is true that in Ingress and HPWU, it might be more appropriate to say unofficial rather than fake.
But in Pokémon GO, it would definitely be fake because it shows the real thing.
Fake means false and that's wrong, and even naming the other one as "official" might not be the proper term for this situation.
The ones that only show up in Pokemon Go seems to be "sponsored" pokestops, and the other ones "user-generated", they have been nominated following the proper procedure, voted in Wayfarer and approved by the community.
These "user-generated" pokestops match a real PoI in the world, they are at the correct location, so they can't be fake and once they are approved by the community they are official wayspots.
If those wayspots are already present in Pokemon Go due to being sponsored by TPC, it's up to Niantic to find out how to prevent that they show up as duplicates in the game, and again: they are not fake.
The wording fake and real is misleading. What you mean, op, is sponsored and non-sponsored.
To @NianticDanbocat , @NianticTintino , @NianticGiffard , @AgentMAenlight-ING and all ambassadors
The "Poké Lids" Wayspot, created by Wayfinder with all our heart, has been removed.
I challenge this decision.
Only Wayfinder's "Poké Lids" Poké Stop, which is duplicated in Pokemon GO, should be hidden and the Wayspot should remain.
Restore the "Poké Lids" Wayspot as soon as possible!
At this rate, the established fact that it is a bad thing to make "Poké Lids" as a Wayspot will be born.
At this rate, you can't create and play "Poké Lids" missions in Ingress, or give your friends a "Poké Lids" postcard in Pikmin Bloom to make them happy.
Wayfarer isn't fun if you remove something that doesn't fall under the “criteria for removal”!
Removing the "Poké Lids" Wayspot is absolutely wrong!! They are high quality candidates that maximize the attractiveness of the area.
I'll say it again. "Poké Lids" Wayspot does not fall under the criteria for removal at all!
Stop destroying the Niantic Lightship map!