Raise the gym badge display limit
Raachermannl-ING
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The basic problem:
PoGo has a list of all gym badges, that a player interacted with. All badges? No, only the 1000 latest ones. The others aren't displayed, but nethertheless somewhere on the server stored, since the gym progress is saved, when you bring back a gym to the list, that already dropped out of it.
For ING-only-players: you can compare this to a scenario, that the ING-mission-badges would have a cutoff at any random point.
Why is this wayfarer related?
Gym badge collectors are a big group of reviewers, as far as I can see in our social media and in my local communities. Especially they are the wayfinders, that search for the nice offroad stuff to create remote gyms, or in terms of ING nice anti-cargress anchor portals. So they are often also those wayfinders, that fill the regions, where might be civilisation and lots of wayspot-worthy candidates, but no wayspots. No wayspots -> no players. So if they create wayspots there, then there might be players of Nia-games in the future.
And the point of time, when a player hits this threshold and golden badges drop out of the list, the motivation decreases harshly, since one is asking temself, why nethertheless should do this, if your badges/achievements drop out.... and motivation drop is deadly for volunteer work like wayfarer....
Why should Nia care about raising this threshold?
There are lots of people out there, whose golden gym badge counter is far beyond that threshold.
Few months ago Niantic blamed themselves already, when Brandon Tan's XP went higher then the XP-numbers datatype allowed: so we saw, that XP was in PoGo a signed 32bit integer, because his XP dropped to the negative ....
So in the same sense, when Nia had to adjust the XP-datatype they should simply adjust the gym badge display threshold...
https://www.stadiumgaming.gg/stats/board/gymbadges_gold
Further there might be a money-money aspect. Players with dropped motivation invest less money. And beyond of that I'd like to add an own episode:
When Uxie,Mesprit and Azelf were back in raids and remote raiding was introduced I didn't raid Uxie and Azelf .... only because I didnt want to have bronze badges from different continents in my badge list. If this wouldnt be a thing, I would have raided them like hell to get them with 100% IV ..... but only because of the littering with unwelcome foreign badges I've chosen to pay 40k stardust and obtain the dex entries only by trading.
Why does this threshold still exist?
This threshold stayed at the same since 2017 and was never changed. Back then the phones were worse and the threshold might have had sense and saved memory and prevented laggs. But since lots of older phone types weren't supported anymore this 1000 could be removed, or at least raised to a level that fits the numbers from above better.
So @NianticTintino please forward that issue to the PoGo-programmers. That should be a fast and easy improvement...
Comments
What does this problem have to do with wayfarer?
Different players have their own playstyle, I think? Some people are interested to collect more gym badges, and to reach that goal they either have to travel even more to find any gym they didn't have its badge yet, or create new ones through Wayfarer.
My motivation for Wayfarer is to get more quality candidates into the underlying database, either through my own submissions or through accurate reviews of those submitted by others. Along the way, I've created a lot of gyms. I keep track of those that are important, or those I get gold, by maintaining photo albums with screenshots: I can immediately provide my rather low Gold Gyms number by looking at the total number of photos in that album. Gym badges are in no way Wayfarer-related. If you want more gym badges, do remote raids. If you want more gold gym badges, work on what you can get to or even work with foreign friends to raid them gold - heck, I have some New York City gyms gold strictly through invites from friends with couch gyms. This is a Pokemon Go-only strategy, and the limitation on the gym display is a Pokemon Go-only problem, and just because there's no Pokemon Go forum doesn't make this the place to have this discussion.
We all know how this is going to end as this isn’t Wayfarer related. There’s a clear need for a Pokémon GO Niantic forum for these queries.
Just waiting for the below from Giffard or someone.
“Thanks for sharing this, @Raachermannl-ING however I shall be closing this thread since this topic is not Wayfarer related. That being said, your feedback has been recorded.“
Did u read the second paragraph?
This has nothing to do with Wayfarer and this is not a Pokemon Go support forum. Please take this issue to Pokemon Go support.
Although I can appreciate the fact that collecting gold gym badges might make someone motivated to submit and review. The 1,000 limit is probably more than sufficient for the vast majority of people doing that.
Thanks for reaching out, @Raachermannl-ING, I appreciate you for sharing the feedback. However, please note that the forum is restricted to Wayfarer-related discussions and as a result, I'll be closing it for future comments.
You're always welcome to share your thoughts with us through Twitter (@NianticHelp) or in-app for the related game.