How did this meet the criteria for rejection - blocking access
rufoushumming-PGO
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I have recently had a nomination rejected.
It is a building (one of many in a public sports park). It is surrounded by park. Sits 50% in a memorial garden. Has public footpaths (walking/running and cycling) on two sides. A playground 30 m away. A sports centre 30 m away.
It is a historical building. Part of a larger historical water facility.
It has been rejected twice. The reason
This nomination has been rejected due to the following reason(s):
The real-world location of the nomination appears to obstruct the driveway of emergancy services or may interfer with the operations of fire stations, police stations, hospitals, military bases, industrial sites, power plants or air traffic control towers. Nomination does not meet acceptance criteria.
So my question is this. how does it get rejected and all other nominations in the park do not. In particular those nearby?
Nomination. Below. The first photo. Shows the public footpaths. The second photo the markings indicating path usage. Sure those paths can be used for maintenance and emergency vehicles. But it is the same paths for at least 5 other accepted POIs in the park!. This is not an industrial complex. It is not a public road. The building is in a park. it sits 50% in the memorial gardens.
I do not understand why it fails and the other nominations pass when the same criteria is applied.
Help!!!! Please
Waverley Park - Waverley Water Pumping Station WPS28.
Bondi Junction NSW
NOT ACCEPTED
2021-08-04
Description
Industrial brick art deco style water pumping station set in Waverley Park. This an integral part of the historic listed Waverley Reservoir complex providing water to East Sydney. Waverley Memorial Gardens behind and the recreation centre and playing fields to the South East. Walking, jogging and cycling paths are on two sides with a BBQ 30m away. Built circa 1910.
Location
95 Bondi Rd, Bondi Junction NSW 2022, Australia
Supplemental Information
This water pumping building is part of the heritage listed Waverly Reservoir Complex (final listing of the last reservoir in 2001). Made up of 4 reservoirs providing gravity to the eastern suburbs and mechanical pumping to Bellevue hill reservoir. It is safe to access in Waverley Park. The building, walkways and park are accessible 24/7. The surrounding walkways are used for running, biking and walking .Surrounded by grass areas, trees for shade, gardens to chill in and importantly facilities at the recreation centre. The building partly sits in the memorial gardens. This complex does not obstruct any emergency vehicle access. Bus stops near by and public parking behind Waverly Council offices.
Comments
So, a pumping station by itself has no value as a POI, doesn't matter where it's located. Just because things are in a park doesn't give them an automatic pass.
It looks like the main point of interest about the building is the architecture and its historic nature, and these would make it a valid POI. But while you briefly mention when it was built and then say that it's part of the "heritage" reservoir complex and that it's art deco, that's the only bit that relates to either architecture or history. It's nice that you describe the park, but that takes up over half of all your info and does nothing to support the properties you want to capitalize on - the history and architecture.
When I look at this, I almost completely gloss over those two properties, and I think, "Oh a pumping station. Denied." You want to pull reviewers' attention from that with more pertinent information. What does the heritage reservoir complex even mean? Those are just words to me right now. Can you say something more about the architecture, who built it, how long it's been in operation. Sure, built in 1910, but if you can say it's been operating for 110 years, over a century, that gets my attention. Is it on the national register of historic places? Is there a plaque associated with it that you can showcase? Do some more research, if you haven't already, and tell me how this ties into the area's history.
You might consider improving your photos. First one isn't terrible, but it's clearly over exposed on one side. Second one looks blurry. Your title - slim it up a bit and maybe call it something like 1910 Art Deco Waverly Park Pumping Sation. That way you get your critical info to people right up front and they don't have to dig (and maybe miss it). It's also more attention-getting and more likely to make me want to go look than what you have now.
I also want to add kudos for having such a thorough description and supporting info. Most people don't invest the time and effort they need to, and you clearly did. Just needs to be refocused! 👍
Agreed completely with @CipherBlakk-PGO . This is probably a good PoI as an historic building, so stress that and as many details about its history in the title and description and omit the irrelevant references to the park. A photo that really accentuates the Art Deco aspects would help. I probably would have approved this, but I understand why other reviewers might have glazed over it. Good luck!
Although re-reading the post, I kind of understand why you included all of those details about the park as an attempt to head off the "emergency vehicle" silliness.
Thank you @Ochemist-ING and @CipherBlakk-PGO will go again. Yeah the photos. Will work on that and the text ;-)
In answer to your question (and not focusing on the rest of the nomination), you should know based on your last post should that it is reviewers that can select a reject reason if they 1-star a nomination. They can often be locals all the way between Canberra to Newcastle or if the nomination is upgraded, sent off to people across the country or to those globally who have (for whatever reason) selected Sydney as their bonus location.
Some advice?
Industrial brick art deco style water pumping station set in Waverley Park. This an integral part of the historic listed Waverley Reservoir complex providing water to East Sydney.
Waverley Memorial Gardens behind and the recreation centre and playing fields to the South East. Walking, jogging and cycling paths are on two sides with a BBQ 30m away.Built circa 1910.As a side note, if you really want to ask for nomination improvement, it's not healthy to start the title blaming reviewers with a rhetorical question. Just ask for advice and improvement to get it over the line the next time.
Hope this helps @HaramDingo-ING - apologies wrong title on posting. I wanted clarity on a better nomination!!
Without being a bore.... The rejection criteria was about blocking access. I was like WTA.....
Re the photo. I struggle with its position. It sits under trees so I get either dark dark or that white blur. I will go up again and try from another angle.
Re your question on heritage listings.
I will address that. I have listings from NSW heritage and Sydney Water.. Will add links!