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Ok so please tell us you have a plan coming very soon for clearing backlogs and increasing review incentives because holy **** this is going to bog things down.
So a new user will start with 40 contributions and no test or any guidance at all?
I have a bad feeling about this.
Aha! So what you actually mean in your OP is:
Why didn't you say this in the first place.... 😀
A common (band-aid) sentiment shared by many here when people complain about long turnaround times is "just upgrade it". In no way should this be an acceptable response, no one should wait 12+ for their nomination to resolve let alone 24+ months.
Now with 40 nominations, how can ANYONE suggest an upgrade band-aid to get their 40 nominations resolved? Im not even caught up upgrading previous nominations let alone 40 more.
Thanks for clearing this up!
Again I like this a lot.. For ME. (And others in this forum who are PoGo players and know what the criteria are...)
@NianticTintino Pleeeeease tell me you're rolling out the mandatory pre-submission test though for all who haven't taken the reviewer's test before October 12.
I cannot wait for more...
A trash compactor would be very helpful to handle some of the nominations...
Yeah... just tonight I got like 6 pond aerator fountains, a dumpster "where Grimer" live, "The very oldest tree in the land that is 1000 years old", many boring housing community signs, a STOP sign with the description poke (get it, POKE STOP?!), middle of a street, middle of the woods, middle of a field, 3 elementary schools, a high school...
Pre. Submission. Test. (for all) Please.
Thank you for the investigation and the reply!
I'm wondering if you were able to dig into the other two questions:
And does this mean the bonus nominations we were told would happen as a result of a previous bug is never going to happen?
Will this happen before or after the promised "submission test" that was brought up recently?
It's okay to say that we won't get the bonus nominations - I don't think any of us ever thought Casey would follow through with that, anyways, and with the change in nomination management coming up it seems less critical, but a "yes, we're still considering it" or "no, it isn't deemed necessary at this time" would bring closure to an outstanding issue.
I think we've made it more than clear that the "submitter test" is something the reviewer community is extremely passionate about and we have tried to express our reasoning with as much evidence as we can - anecdotal and pictorial. Is there any intent on a test to ensure submitters understand criteria BEFORE being let loose with 40 nominations?
Thanks in advance for the reply!
And one burning question remains about the test: will it be administered only to people newly reaching the submission level, or applied retroactively to all who have never completed the reviewer test? Even the oldest Ingress pre-Pokemon submitter might need a refresher if they've never reviewed. Your experienced reviewers are the ones who know the criteria best.
Edit: that's not to say I wouldn't welcome the submitter test being applied to all regardless of Wayfarer/Recon badge status - I'm Platinum Wayfarer, Onyx Recon, and I'd still gladly take that test to submit. We all need continuing education! But the test should not be like the current Wayfarer test: no two strikes, you're out forever. Allow retesting every six months to give everyone a fair chance to both learn and to contribute.
I'm happy if some people are pleased by this. But I have nothing to submit in my area and am still waiting for some kind of movement on submissions I made over a year ago, so this "solution" is completely irrelevant to the issues I have with Wayfarer.
Quite confuse on what the topic said, what is different?
If we do have a "submitter test", can we please have it randomly select x questions from a much larger pool of "review subjects", or withn 24 hours of a test being put into operation there will be several You-tube videos showing all of the "correct" answers, thus hegating the whole purpose of the test.
I think at the very least it needs to be applied to any account that has not already taken the wayfarer reviewer test.
Not just new level 38 players after the rollout date, ALL who haven't already taken the reviewer test.
And I assume Niantic doesn't want to have a decrease in nominations, they'd rather have as many as they can coming in... So as far as failing the test it should be maybe a 3 strike, but then you can retest every 30 days until you pass?
TL;DR on the announcement: Starting on October 12 for PoGo players:
*Nomination refresh rate for PoGo players is doubled (from an average of 0.5 nominations per day to 1 nomination per day), and will be just slightly lower than the current Ingress rate (which I understand to be 14 nominations in 13 days, though it could be 14/14 and would then be even with Ingress),
*Unused nominations stack in a pool of up to a cap of 40, which can in theory be deployed all at once,
*Numbers of edit types are standardized and refresh at smaller increments daily (1/2 per day depending on type) instead of leaving what used to be a larger cache of edit where each used edit has a fortnight cooldown. This is slightly less for most edit types than PoGo players currently have and greatly decreases the number of AR Scans available for Ingress if the numbers stay the same,
*Unused nominations and edits also have the same pool-and-cap system as nominations,
*When the changeover occurs, every PoGo player will start with the maximum pool of nominations/edits, and
*Ingress will eventually get the same system, but a date for that has not been set yet.
If you exclusively play Ingress, nothing will be different for you for the foreseeable future until they push the same system to Agents.
.... its better than dog **** station, at least it will just smell of trash, rather than **** 🤣🤣🤣
@NianticTintino May I ask the reasoning for the increase in nomination cap? I am a “rural” player and don’t see a need for this. But what we do is, better response times on nominations, and I am glad to see you guys are working on that.
Also for incorporating Wizard Unite submissions into the game please make it level 55 and up & require them to take a test! Make it 15 questions long and showing both popular good nominations (ex. Park) and popular trash nominations, (ex. Either a generic sign - still u happy with the neighborhood sign rules but.) or a dog clean up station, cause people love those! 🤣
Alguém sabem me dizer porque minhas referências (já aprimoradas) não entram em votação? Estão lá já fazem dias e nada ... Alguém teve esse problema?
What's the point of increasing the number of nominations people can submit... if they end up being rejected because of reviewers rejecting things for no legitimate reason? And this on top of waiting months to over a year to see whether or not a nomination gets accepted or rejected?
This is ridiculous. They should be focusing on banning people who are rejecting perfectly legitimate nominations... not adding fuel to the fire.
Like... are they even aware of what they are actually doing?
Once they’ve started banning the people submitting garbage, or their bathroom or similar, then yes, look at reviewers. But the poor nominations need to be tackled firstly.
Of course. I don't object.
Though, increasing the number of submissions to 40 would make that job harder, would it not?
Yeah I don’t understand the logic behind upping it to 40. Niantic 🤷
Been thinking it over and it's probably aimed for the long term.
The start will probably be rough, but eventually it will smooth out.
@NianticTintino have you had the chance to get the information on this, yet? It's almost been a week since I last asked and we're less than a week from go-live.
Can you finally bring close the assumption that Casey's proposed double-nominations period will no longer be needed?
Can you please confirm whether or not Niantic has plans on implementing the Wayfarer test before making the available nominations change?
Okay, so October 12, 2021 is next Tuesday. I'm attempting to plan my next set of nominations around this day. Any recommended estimate that you believe this will go live (most likely sometime during a time convenient to the United States), or is this going to get the same treatment as to what happened to the "Upload Later" feature, which was announced to start on September 16 and then we have Wayfinders making a fuss about a half-baked feature being a week late?
+1 to this. Knowing when it will go live will be useful.
I've used all 7 of my nominations, so I too would also like to know when exactly this will be going live.
id like to know, too. I guess it will be Niantic O Clock (10pm in Germany)