A few months on, what’s the latest on Niantic’s view on a Pokémon GO Forum?
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Back in June I posted the below;
There’s a discussion about the updates to Nominations;
where a Pokémon GO forum has been raised again, and @HankWolfman-PGO made a good point about some Pokémon GO team representation.
@NianticGiffard closed the thread and said it would be passed to the relevant team. In my view, it’s still required to funnel Pokémon GO specific queries to the right people and so that trainers have a space to discuss any game specific issues instead of bringing them up here.
An update from Niantic (and views from other Wayfarers/Agents/Trainers) would be welcomed.
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It's about damn time. Every game has it's own forum, including discontinued ones, yet their biggest cash cow is left to rot with only the ingame support.
You'd need a Moderation team on duty 24/7, and have to mod with a rod of iron, otherwise the forum would just dissolve into anarchy in about a day.
TheSilphRoad works perfectly fine.
Maybe because nobody there ever posted “why my badly taken photo ever get accepted by pokemon go?“ 🙈
Believe me, The Silph Road mods get a lot of flack from people who post there, and there's always a lot of reports to sift through. I was briefly a mod for TSR, I've been behind the scenes. It's why I have a lot of respect for the current mod team there.
Yes they do, but things went otherwise if Niantic decided to run an official GO forum, especially with their lack of communication and moderation, combined by the 'uncontrollable' player base. You don't want to see threads are closed everyday because they spam things like "allow to exchange premium battle pass into remote raid pass", "fix GO Battle League", "where's *any unreleased or wished costume Pokemon like Kecleon or Cowboy Hat Caterpie* ", and so on (you can see more of this in their official Twitter account's post replies). And lets not forget that #HearUsNiantic is also a thing.
At least running a forum for providing further support should be nice.
Where'z ma p0kest0p? why Ingress so unfair? how come my accepted nom isn't in p0gooo?
Who would want to moderate a cesspool like that everyday? 🤣
Given the general toxicity of the PoGo community, I fully understand why Niantic is hesitant to open another vector for abuse.
Why would they? It's a WF issue, hence, posted on the WF boards.
Well, my stance with Mods there is that they are somewhat two-faced. A board that does not promote spoofing shouldn't be promoting one of the biggest spoofers in my country, yet they do. Call them out? Post deleted and warning. That's also toxicity.
There is toxicity everywhere. That isn't an argument as to why a dedicated board to a product that's the catalyst for current and future products should not exist. That's why Moderators exist.
You have a lot more toxicity on Twitter and yet they don't close their account 😂 (Mostly because they ignore whats posted anyways).
Yet the posts that are popping up now is "Wherez mai portalz?". How the tables have turned...
Well, reports of an actual bug, details about a workaround, and descriptions of the negative effects upon the database and all linked games are a bit different from inquiries by multitudes who have not researched how things work and done some due diligence towards figuring out the answer for themselves.
I'm convinced that all those Cowboy Hat Caterpie, etc. responses on the official blurbs came into existence because Niantic has never allowed Pokemon Go players to raise their own topics and questions: everything must be a response to one of @PokemonGoApp's or the Facebook Admin's post.
Valid point and valid explanation. What i attempted to do was diffuse this stigma of the whole ING vs PoGo mindset that's always crawling back into the community.
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This is a goal I can get behind - your point is well taken! Of course, with Ingress/Pokemon Go free of contention, then both playerbases would probably gang up on the HPWU community. :)
Didn't you know? You can access the Pokemon GO forum by looking under the truck at the Vermilion City dock.
No good. Just found a useless Mew.
I absolutely don't think that Niantic have currently got the required manpower nor communication skills to run a PoGo forum.
They should, yes, but that's just not the current reality of things.
Hello Explorers,
As mentioned before, we have shared this feedback with the Pokémon GO team. Any updates regarding this topic will be shared directly from Pokémon GO and not in the Wayfarer Community.
Safe Exploration!
Thanks for sharing the feedback, here's to hoping!
Any update from the team on this. I’ve seen Pikmin Bloom has launched and also has a forum; https://community.pikminbloom.com/
So Pokémon GO is very much the one left out in that aspect. (I am aware the comment noted updates would come on Pokémon GO, not here, but wanted to prod things now that we have another game out and it has a forum from the very start. 5 years on with Pokémon GO…and you just have the Remy bot )
Because there are so many issues with Pokemon Go, combined with the number of players, it would need a number of full-time moderators. As much as the concept sounds good, in reality it would likely be an unwieldy mess with countless threads/posts.
Why was this necro’d?
This will never happen. It would cost a million dollars and add nothing to the bottom line.
" who have not researched how things work and done some due diligence towards figuring out the answer for themselves"
I hate that thought process, it's very elitist, how is a new submitter, who has never heard of cells and wouldn't even k ow what cells are be able to research something they don't even have an inkling exists, know to go and research? That shouldn't be on them, that should be on niantic for not giving at least a hint of what could happen duri g the submission process
Because someone's complaining they are unable to beat Rocket Boss who has a Shadow (not XD001) Lugia.
Oh right, they're complaining in a wrong place...
My response was based on someone claiming that Ingress players were flooding the boards with complaints about portals not appearing. In this case, those submitters were reporting a bug, knowing full well that there are proximity restrictions in Ingress. Most people reporting "where are my pokestops" are unaware of the cell rules, true, but simply reading these boards for a while before posting would lead them on the right path. Or maybe read Reddit, or use a Google search, or ask a local submitter in a local chat group. Niantic only needs to say that All Accepted Candidates May Not Appear In All Games as they choose to do, they've already opted out of saying more.
If there was a Pokemon Go forum, then these questions could go there. They're not Wayfarer issues.
Again though, why would new submitters even think to ask anyone until after their poi is marked as duplicate or doesn't appear. And noantic don't say that until the accepted letter comes in, they should make it clear from the start that pois might not make it in, they don't need to say cell rule or whatever but can say something along the lines of "when submitting a waypoint to potentially be a pokestop, please be aware that, due to spacing and proximity to other stops, your submission may not appear in game, but .as appear in others. If you would like more help, please see the wayfarer forums" or something g to that remark.
Niantic has thus far been unable to even change the wording from "New Pokestop" to anything game-neutral in the submission section: the only text changes they've made are to the Internal Reviewers rejection comments, which went from nonsensical to nonsensical. I'd hate for them to change the wording to direct people to the Wayfarer forums to help them out with cell spacing instruction, as most of those questions would be closed without comment by the Wayfarer board mods. There's no official resource they could be put in contact with: all S2 spacing info is from grass-roots third-party research results, and I doubt Pokemon Go would direct people to The Silph Road or something as part of an official communication.