Fakes Nägelstedt + Tonna, part 1
City: Tonna (part of collective municipality Fahner Höhe), Nägelstedt (part of Bad Langensalza)
Country: Germany, Thuringia
Please look at this together with the threads for Bad Langensalza:
- https://community.wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/discussion/12099/fakes-and-scrap-at-bad-langensalza#latest
- https://community.wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/discussion/26067/fakes-bad-langensalza-part-2#latest
Title: Sir Ulrich Andenken
Fake-Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.108756,10.709196&z=17&pll=51.108756,10.709196
Real Location at Nuremburg: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=49.457527,11.074485&z=17&pll=49.457527,11.074485
The crazy amount of local world war memorials:
This one is the real one of that village: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.110124,10.707139&z=17&pll=51.110124,10.707139
Whether the location is accurate, I can't judge. It's at least plausible to be somewhere around a church. At it's front plate you can read, that it is for WW1 and you can read the village name Nägelstedt there. The title of the wayspot says, that it's for WW2 .... so I guess it's for both of them, since the side plates has a lot of names of fallen soldiers on it. So looking at how small this village is, it's very likely, that the other sides of the monument were used for the fallen soldiers of WW2 ...
But then there are lots of other WW-memorials:
(villages usually have 1 WW-memorial for both wars, or one memorial for each of them)
Title: Denkmal Der Gefallenen
Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.109769,10.703925&z=17&pll=51.109769,10.703925
The image size is suspicious small, so that I cant read the text. The design looks like a WW1 memorial .... there is for sure no 2nd one for WW1 ....
Title: Den Helden zu Ehren
Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.107549,10.708591&z=17&pll=51.107549,10.708591
Again small image size. Can't read all of the text, but enought to see, that it is from 1918, so again for WW1 ...
Title: Mahnmal Zweiter Weltkrieg
Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.107247,10.704612&z=17&pll=51.107247,10.704612
Title claims, that this is a WW2 memorial. Again I cant read all the texts, but at the bottom behind the big W seems to be a year mentioned: 183x ..... so by far not WW2. Further the crest at the side of the monument doesnt make sense. The village Nägelstedt doesn't have an own crest, and the superior town Bad Langensalza, that incorporated that village, has another crest....
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10 days ago I had another fake for review from there:
The house is way to big for that narrow village streets.
Also the manor/castle style doesnt fit such villages .... half timbered houses would fit ....
There seems to be also a strange trend at Nägelstedt and Bad Langensalza to introduce game related artworks as pictures to their fakes:
(2 cases at Nägelstedt, more cases at Bad Langensalza)
Title: Stromkasten Mural
Fake-Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.109373,10.713485&z=17&pll=51.109373,10.713485
Can't find the powerbox with the original picture, but as far as I remember it was a well known one, that is often used for fakes. Two weeks ago this artwork already appeared in wayfarers duplicate list, while the Intel map had the powerbox as cover photo ....
It's similar now with the next fake: it has on the intel now a crucifix as cover photo, but in wayfarers duplicate list is a PGO-artwork:
Title: Jesus Kreuz
Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.110938,10.714406&z=17&pll=51.110938,10.714406
The crucifix is fake. The region is mostly Atheistic and the Christian minority are Protestants. Protestants don't depict Jesus - so waycrosses would be without a Jesus hanging there. The picture is stolen from the internet, I guess same source like the next one:
Title: Zu Ehren Gottes
Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.106761,10.716814&z=17&pll=51.106761,10.716814
Picture stolen from: https://www.marterl.at/index.php?id=23&no_cache=1&oid=5522
Title: Falke
Fake-Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.10957,10.705326&z=17&pll=51.10957,10.705326
I miss the asphalt area (parking area?) from the background in the sat view. Furhter the half timbered house in the background seems to have a grey or black roof. All roofs of peaked-roofed houses around there are red ...
Title: Pfarrhaus
Fake-Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.092721,10.729041&z=17&pll=51.092721,10.729041
Real Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.110276,10.70694&z=17&pll=51.110276,10.70694
This infoboard mentions in its text, that it is in Nägelstedt .... so the one at Tonna is fake.
The neighbor town Tonna has the same strange fetish for world war memorials and mislabeling objects ....
Title: Tor des 1. Weltkrieges
Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.090737,10.731223&z=17&pll=51.090737,10.731223
This is a normal graveyard entrance. No relation to WW1 like the title states...
Title: Mahnmal 1945
Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.09056,10.731723&z=17&pll=51.09056,10.731723
On the central stone you can read "Familie Hermann H....."
This is an old family vault, not a world war memorial.
Title: Gedenktafel der gefallenen Brüder
Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.090395,10.732295&z=17&pll=51.090395,10.732295
There is no house around this graveyard, that woud explain the roof in the background.
Together with the real existing memorial for both wars (https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.091055,10.7315&z=17&pll=51.091055,10.7315 ) this would be 4 WW memorial on 100m ...
Title: Trafohaus Mural
Fake-Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.093633,10.733354&z=17&pll=51.093633,10.733354
This powerbox has the name of the owner company on it. e.dis AG, https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/E.DIS
According to wikipedia this company doesnt operate in Thuringia. Only in the federal states Brandenbug und Mecklenburg west pomerania.
Title: Little Gollem
Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.094187,10.732046&z=17&pll=51.094187,10.732046
only a fancy garden gnome ....
Further I saw a ING agent named Golle1406 around there. Since Golem isnt spelled with double L this could be a player reference ...
Title: Denkmal Kreuz
Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.094823,10.72811&z=17&pll=51.094823,10.72811
Photo is very small, most likely 3rd party picture. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/JrMoM8ksCLIC7VjRC8l5GsDIAGkOdV5S4A82i0lwYwEMen9R73Ik7-Q-vZGyWPKUFR1YLAWyu-b-2HePGnSzXyB1gg=s0
Further the amount and density of trees in the background of the picture compared to the sat view doesnt fit.
Since I saw, that some of this reports are already processed, but all the things, that have obviously strange picture sizes and 3rd party pictures, were not touched.
So here the sources, that can easily be found by reverse image google searches:
Title: Denkmal Der Gefallenen
Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.109769,10.703925&z=17&pll=51.109769,10.703925
Memorial is at Czechia, forest near Sadowa: https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Denkmal_Grabst%C3%A4tte_Wald_Sadowa_f._Gef._8.Brig._(Rgt._21_u._61)_.jpg
(somewhere in or around this forest, which seemed to be a battleground of the 1866 war between Austria and Prussia, https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=50.297325,15.739614&z=17&pll=50.297325,15.739614 )
Title: Den Helden zu Ehren
Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.107549,10.708591&z=17&pll=51.107549,10.708591
stolen from: https://kulturdb.de/einobjekt.php?id=8479
Title: Jesus Kreuz
Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.110938,10.714406&z=17&pll=51.110938,10.714406
stolen from: https://www.marterl.at/index.php?id=23&no_cache=1&oid=5424
While doing this for you I found another fake there this way ....
Title: Time-Stone 1812-2013
Fake Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.108214,10.713045&z=17&pll=51.108214,10.713045
stolen from: https://saalekreis.im-bild.org/fotos/gedenksteine-staetten/befreiungskriege-zwintschoena
Another one revisited:
(found it while doing reverse image search with additional input "w.n.183" what can be read at the bottom of the stone)
Title: Mahnmal Zweiter Weltkrieg
Fake-Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.107247,10.704612&z=17&pll=51.107247,10.704612
Real Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=48.927175,8.787859&z=17&pll=48.927175,8.787859 (please rename the wayspot to Herzogstein, what is the proper name of this stone according th the following sources)
Proof: https://www.hav-muehlacker.de/de/geschichtliche-beitraege/allgemeines/Ortsbuecher/Knoeller-DM1930/Knoeller-Flurgeschichte-Teil-1_000017_compressed.pdf
https://www.hav-muehlacker.de/de/geschichtliche-beitraege/zeit-von-500-1700/Herzogstein/herzogstein.php
Finally strange duplicates:
Background doesnt fit neither nor ....
Title: Alter Dorfbrunnen
Fake-Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.109683,10.709615&z=17&pll=51.109683,10.709615
No roof around there has such small dormers ...
Hi there, @Raachermannl-ING! We have reviewed the report and have taken action on the reported Wayspots and Wayfinders in accordance with our policies. Thanks for helping us maintain the quality of the Wayspots.
Further revisitted portals, that werent touched by your staff, although its very obvious abuse ....
Title: Denkmal Kreuz
Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.094823,10.72811&z=17&pll=51.094823,10.72811
Picture is stolen from: https://de.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Das_sagenhafte_L%C3%B6stertal
(again easy to find via reverse image search)
Title: Trafohaus Mural
Fake-Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.093633,10.733354&z=17&pll=51.093633,10.733354
The town crest on this trafo is the crest of Neutrebbin, totally different federal state, 300km away. Totally different architecture around there. (lots of clinker bricks is typical for the German north, not Thuringia)
https://sonderthemen.moz.de/nah-gut-markt-huebner-neutrebbin-tragetasche-spende-127526
Here an newspaper website with another picture of this powerbox.
Another fake in that town, that is new or I missed it:
Title: prison break sculpture
Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.093139,10.720558&z=17&pll=51.093139,10.720558
Background doesnt fit location. The location is at the outside of a prison. So the high double fence from the sat picture is missing. This small green hardware-store-quality-fence is for sure not part of the defence of a prison ....
And way around ..... the very long brownish building from the portal picture is no where else at that location.
@NianticGiffard the stuff, that I mentioned from this post on is still on the intel map .....
Including stuff like this:
Besides that ..... I found more fakes around that village ....
Title: Erinnerungs Mahnmal
Fake-Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.107457,10.685544&z=17&pll=51.107457,10.685544
Real Location (at least I guess it's correct): https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.118458,10.664254&z=17&pll=51.118458,10.664254
Title: Andacht Stein
Fake-Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.109322,10.689127&z=17&pll=51.109322,10.689127
Picture again stolen from the same website like the other crucifixes from above: https://www.google.com/search?hl=de&tbs=simg:CAESYQlKyWsBWBR8OxpWCxCwjKcIGjoKOAgEEhSQPK8j8QLjK-YrpRj2NLwjsj28GxoaNZDu34NVNSw0S06c27XU0bSX4xBTlvAEWrsgBTAEDAsQjq7-CBoKCggIARIEfEMlhgw&sxsrf=AOaemvLojJQ737UJjbnQuDEM3LWMhc0aEA:1638822692828&q=poysdorf+&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi3kNKjgtD0AhXjQeUKHXJMDRsQjJkEegQIAhAC&biw=1162&bih=949&dpr=1
Title: Meilen/Grenzstein am Radweg
Fake-Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.107239,10.675086&z=17&pll=51.107239,10.675086
This medieval border marker has the crest of the Arch-Dukes of Württemberg on it, that was used from 15th until 19th century with only slight variations. the influence of these dukes never reached up to Thuringia, so no reason given to place a Württemberg border marker there. The crest has an english wiki article, where this crest and its quarters are explained in detail: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coat_of_arms_of_W%C3%BCrttemberg
Exact one should be from the period of this guy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_I,_Duke_of_W%C3%BCrttemberg
I didnt find the exact location of that stone, but a very similar one is at Kniebis at mountain range Black Forest, https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datei:Grenzstein_Kniebis_Wuerttemberg.JPG Since it's very similar and the only difference is the engraving at the botton, I guess this one is not far away from this wiki-example.
Besides this ..... someone told me, that there are text edits out there (dunno if title or description), that shall introduce texts like "Nia R&E Mural" to these wayspots with artwork pictures from the villages in this thread and Bad Langensalza ....
@NianticGiffard
And finally now intel sync has freed the original picture of the following wayspot .... and it's again 3rd party from somewhere else ...
Title: Stromkasten Mural
Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.109373,10.713485&z=17&pll=51.109373,10.713485
Stolen from: https://www.pinterest.de/pin/771874823626601693/
this one is still there, and the fakers go on with their **** .....
Why didnt someone clear those peoples nomination and edit queues? @NianticGiffard
Thanks for the follow-up! We have reviewed the reported Wayspots and have taken action on them and the Wayfinder in accordance with our policies.
@NianticGiffard I've also stumbled across this town and all these fake portals during my wayfarer reviews. @Raachermannl-ING reported nearly all of these fakes but there are two fakes left:
1.
Title: Alter Dorfbrunnen
Fake-Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.109683,10.709615&z=17&pll=51.109683,10.709615
Real Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=47.956772,7.294992&z=17&pll=47.956772,7.294992
Proof: The real location is a town in france and the portal picture was stolen 1:1 from this page:
https://www.staedte-fotos.de/bild/brunnen-denkmaeler-etc~brunnen~europa/43782/rufach-ein-historischer-brunnen-an-der.html
2.
Title: Falke
Fake-Location: https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=51.10957,10.705326&z=17&pll=51.10957,10.705326
Real Location: https://www.google.com/maps/place/BaerArt%C2%AE/@49.3822965,9.2691424,388m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m14!1m8!3m7!1s0x0:0xd3807806bb8ca9a3!2zQmFlckFydMKu!8m2!3d49.3822965!4d9.2691424!14m1!1BCgIgAQ!3m4!1s0x0:0xd3807806bb8ca9a3!8m2!3d49.3822965!4d9.2691424
The real location is the entrance of a woodcarver workshop in the small town Schefflenz south-east of germany 300km away from the fake location. The picture was stolen from the woodcarvers website: http://www.baerweb.de/sculp2.htm
We have taken action on both the Wayspots.