Multiple fake portals created by a player in his private residence
Boilerona90-PGO
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Title of the Wayspot: Area gioco Giardino Balbo
Location: 45.025149, 7.698866
City: Turin (Torino)
Country: Italy (Italia
Screenshot of the Rejection Email:
Photos to support your claim:
Additional information:
As you can see from the satellite, there is no playground. (First picture)
In addition, the portal photo clearly says "Circoscrizione 1 - Giardino Balbo" which is another place in the city which is located in the city center. (Second picture and third pictures)
Furthermore the position of the fake POI is in another "Circoscrizione" (District), the "Circoscrizione 8), as can be seen from the picture with the different districts of Turin present on Wikipedia at the following link: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circoscrizioni_di_Torino#/media/File:Circoscrizioni_torino_2016.png. (Fourth picture)
Title of the Wayspot: Croce Gloriosa per Torino
Location: 45.025308, 7.698621
City: Turin (Torino)
Country: Italy (Italia)
Screenshot of the Rejection Email:
Photos to support your claim:
Additional information:
As you can see from Google Street View, there is no plate. (Fifth picture and sixth pictures)
Title of the Wayspot: Infopoint Sentiero Naturalistico n.10 della Val Sappone
Location: 45.024971, 7.698064
City: Turin (Torino)
Country: Italy (Italia)
Screenshot of the Rejection Email:
Photos to support your claim:
Additional information:
The "Sentiero Naturalistico n. 10 della Val Sappone" route is a naturalistic route but as can be seen, the position of the fake POI that represents the sign of the path is not at the beginning or at the end of the route and not even on the route itself but in the garden of a private residence, link to the route: https://it.wikiloc.com/percorsi-escursionismo/sentiero-10-11-naturalistico-della-val-sappone-dal-fioccardo-al-parco-della-maddalena-cavoretto-pat-67354574. (Seventh and eighth pictures)
I have reported three fake POIs in this single post because they are three POIs that are close together in the same area and created by the same player (Danynad). He get these POIs approved through a trick, creating false photosphere to which it is possible to give a false position at will and to which, during the vote phase on Wayfarer, the evaluator's view is automatically placed (false photosphere subsequently removed thanks to the reporting to Google). It has been shown that the three fake POIs reported are clearly false, inaccessible because they are located inside an independent private residence where only one player lives and also dangerous given that pedestrian access is on one side only and that it is a suburban area of the city with high car traffic. This city has over 3,000 real and safe POIs where to play, no need for these fake, inaccessible and dangerous POIs. It also requires the courtesy of banning from Wayfarer and preventing the ability to create new POI requests for player Danynad on both games (Pokémon GO and Ingress Prime) because he ruins both Niantic games with his fake requests and even Google products with his false photsospheres, damaging both tourists and players.
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20 Likes? That's a bit overdone ;)
@Raachermannl-ING What do you mean by "bit overdone"? Do you have any idea how many Pokémon GO and Ingress Prime players there are in Turin? Check out the Intel map or the Pokémon GO Gyms. But seriously do you look at the likes on the post after all the details I have provided? Especially Ingress Prime players are united when it comes to having to distance themselves from those who cheat and here we have a player who will farm items, link and field to on fake portals making his faction win by cheating the cycles and ruining the game for all the other players, lately he does not do it trying not to attract attention and keep his portals false. Please keep focus on the subject of this thread to try to take the necessary actions and avoid unnecessary controversies that are useless.
This is appeal was clearly made by an account created ad-hoc on the same date, you can see "joined wayfarer on december 24" on his profile. The same date of this thread...
Furthermore in Italian "Boilerona" is a derogatory noun to descrive a **** woman resembling a boiler.
I wonder why to hide himself like this, and maybe I know the reason. I'm from the Turin community as well, playing both of Pokemon go and Ingress, and I have some knowledge about it.
Behind this post there is the anger of a player banned for spoofing (fake GPS) from the local telegram's Pokemon Go players community, exactly 1 year before this thread on the 24th of dec 2020 (what a coincidence!). I'm not going to publish names and nicknames, unlike he did, because I'm not here to blame and it's out ot the purpose of this post.
This happened after weeks of people sending in reports, proofs with videos of empy plazas with no players around, and so on. Always the same stuff I'm sure you all known about.
Now I'm not here to discuss our little community's problems, nor to blame NIA.
I'm here to make you see how this report is all a personal revenge against one of the players responsible for his "ban" from telegram community. A "cold served" revenge 12 months later, I should say. With some forged info here and some defamatory info there.
1. Analysing the report itself, I can say the waypoint "Infopoint Sentiero Naturalistico n.10 della Val Sappone" exists, I'm 100% sure since I've been there by bike and by foot. It's a real trail marker located where the waypoiny was placed, in the middle of the wood as clearly visible from the satellite view. I'm attaching a couple of photos, one of the last snowy weeks.
2. About the waypoint "Croce Gloriosa per Torino" I'm sure the owner will be able to provide some photos of the present state where the "Croce" actually is. It's a heavy metal plate mounted alongside the sidewalk (thus perfect pedestrian access!). And oh come on," suburban area [...] with high car traffic"? An other fake info, it's a rural residential area with low traffic, let me say 10 cars per hour on average. Check out with google maps traffic if you want.
3. About "Area gioco Giardino Balbo" I can't say for sure, maybe the satellite view it's not up to date, ot the playground was removed, or simply the waypoint was misplaces. Just another one the thousand we see daily on wayfarer.
On the last comment the author, not satisfied enough, states that the reported portals were used to link, field, and make his faction win (which, by the way, it's his same faction). This is totally FALSE. Those portals were NEVER used for such actions. You can check yourself the activity. There was NEVER a link nor a field held upon them.
Speaking of which, the author's knowledge about Ingress' mechanisms let me think: the account "Boilerona90-PGO" is linked to a Pokemon Go account, that's what the "PGO" stands for, but he clearly demostrated to know how Ingress works, and also to have an Ingress account to access the Intel. In the first photo he posted, you can see in the top left corner the green text overlay of 11149/13000 XM level of his ENL level 10 Ingress account.
I hope you'll reconsider this report after hearing my other opinion.
So let's respond to the last two comments.
My account was not created on the same date as this thread and this is obvious by looking at the screenshot of the rejection emails, I simply reached this community on the same day and this didn't mean anything, I did it after other players introduced me this community said that creating threads here would be more effective than reporting from the game. In Italian my nick does not have the meaning described above but far from it, that is just a stretch. And the story invented by the angry player does not concern me but simply demonstrates how the player of the three fake POIs has an aggressive attitude towards others in private chats and now also here where he again invents stories to support his complaints. Then these last two comments are created by someone who writes with spite and "has photos" of the three fake POIs in question, guess who is hiding behind the nick of "Cuordipietra" ("Stoneheart" in English)? Yes, it's him. Knowing that on Ingress Prime you can farm items, create links and fields would be a "deep" knowledge? I do not think so. We can also say that the portals can be leveled up to level 8 and the player in question of the three fake POIs uses abandoned and created for the purpose Ingress Prime accounts of his Pokémon GO friends to level up and bring the portals to level 8, an action that is against the TOS and that he would lead to being banned for multiaccount, in addition to the fact that the items he farms on the fake POIs he sells them to other players, another action against the TOS.
But once again let's keep the attention on the subject of the thread which are the three fake POIs and not the ban of this cheater player and let's try to answer the small part of the two previous comments that talk about them:
1. The photos that have been posted show the existence of the POI by no one questioned because that sign really exists but it is located at the beginning of the "Sentiero Naturalistico n. 10 della Val Sappone" and the beginning of the path is in a totally different and distant location from where the POI was falsely created. In support of this evident information, a link accessible on the internet has already been published which demonstrates the path followed by this route.
2. "I'm sure the owner will be able to provide some photos". Do you know him so well or are you writing yourself? However, the plate exists because it was created on purpose and hung to make the photosphere and the photos would prove nothing, "Croce gloriosa di Torino" ("Glorious Cross of Turin" in English) should be a monument that from Google Street View clearly does not exists and the location of the POI is inside a private home.
3. "Area Gioco Giardino Balbo" is the most evidently false of all since in addition to not existing as a satellite (the position is on the street where cars pass as seen from satellite, so it has never been possible for a play area existed there) and as demonstrated in the first post of the thread from the photo of the POI, it is clear how this was also taken from another area of the city where the real and existing Giardino Balbo is (with its playground area).
I hope you are not fooled by this player's desperate defense of his three fake POIs, he has already managed to fool the Wayfarer evaluators to create and exploit them in Niantic games but now it is right for all players that these fake, inaccessible and dangerous POIs are removed.
Sooo hi folks, let me clear out a few things. This is post is starting to get a little bit too diffamatory and with forged informations. @Cuordipietra-ING thanks for the step in but I'll take care of this.
I've always been open to dialogue in real life, despite the opposite player "@Himav-PGO", impersonated here by this account "@Boilerona90-PGO". You even know in real life all the players behind those accounts, go ask them. Some are your friends too.
The rejection email screenshots are dated may 2021, sure, then show the full email to see which account sent them. I bet it's not "Boilerona90".
I personally give no credits to the words of a player using cheats in game, in this case fake gps in Pokemon Go. It's a well known fact after a year among our local community.
All the other theories mentioned in this post are pure fictional and sensational.
Of course I'll accept the decision from official wayfarer's team. This is not under discussion. But please you all stop putting shame on personal level and unrelated facts. This is getting way out of the purpose of this platform, and of a game.
If anyone needs more info, you know how to reach me.
Peace out
-> "This is post is starting to get a little bit too diffamatory and with forged informations"
-> "I've always been open to dialogue in real life, despite the opposite player "@Himav-PGO", impersonated here by this account "@Boilerona90-PGO""
-> "But please you all stop putting shame on personal level and unrelated facts. This is getting way out of the purpose of this platform, and of a game."
These are three sentences do not fit well together in the same comment and contradict each other, I have only created a thread regarding three fake POIs and there is nothing defamatory there as random players and hypothetical unrelated facts are mentioned here by you.
"The rejection email screenshots are dated may 2021, sure, then show the full email to see which account sent them. I bet it's not "Boilerona90"."
You talked about events that happened a year ago with other players but I'm sorry to let you know that I have been playing well before and that my account has existed since 2017:
so my dude, you lost your bet. This is just to prove that all the "pure fictional and sensational" things written here are the lies and slander you write against local legit players tired of your and your firends cheats, the only well known fact in our local community.
But once again I have to remind you all that we must keep the focus on the subject of this thread and not on other stories that bore those who have to make decisions about it and therefore only talk about the aforementioned three fake POIs.
"Of course I'll accept the decision from official wayfarer's team. This is not under discussion."
The only clever and related thing written by the comments that others have written besides me, so let's not fill this thread with useless comments about other uninvolved players and local facts that have nothing to do with this thread and let the Wayfarer team do the their work to which a single reading of this thread will be enough to make the right decision to remove the three fake POIs.
It is a game and has its own clear rules that must be respected by all players who have the goal of keeping it clean from improprieties.
Peace out.
Hi all,
Some time ago I went with Boilerona90 to take the "Area Gioco Giardino Balbo" gym on Pokémon GO and guess what? There was no playground area, no route sign and no plate with monument! Please Danynad stop with your ridiculous stories and take your responsibilities and consequent actions against your accounts for creating fake POIs and violating Wayfarer and Niantic rules!
And here comes the reinforcements! Hi!
"Giustiziere" means punisher or "the one who brings justice". Of course. Nice to meet you. You from ebay aswell?
Strange fact, I never saw in game or in any chat none of you two. So how do you pretend you saw and took the mentioned gym/wayspot?
It's a rural and remote area, not many players came by. Too bad.
Please niantic, backlog to see where these accounts were created or where they were leveled up. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm curious.
P.s. Boosting likes at your posts proves nothing but your large account disponibilty, or need of support from "friends".
Thanks @GiustiziereM-PGO for your testimony, it is really appreciated.
Once again the aggressive attitude of the Danynad player is demonstrated that he keeps in private chats as well as here in this thread, his only arguments are the English translation of the nicknames of the other players, the fact that he "does not know us" and the likes on the comments. Relevance with the three fake POIs? Zero. We laugh out loud about this. When you calm your anger we will have no problem to meet you in the game at the real and existing Pokémon GO gyms. Then "coincidentally" he is also informed about where to buy and sell Pokémon GO accounts and Ingress Prime items, is eBay the platform you use for your business? We are curious. Your requests, however, are beyond the content of this thread but as has already been shown to you in the previous comments your expectations would have been disappointed anyway.
But once again I must to remember you all to bring attention back to the subject of this thread which are the three fake POIs, all the rest is a pathetic attempt by the player Danynad to distract attention since he cannot answer anything about it, so please stop making this thread a circus with your nosense accusations and allegations.
Peace.
I asked for the rejection email screenshots, not your pokemon go profile's.
It's obvious it exists if you write here with that nice name. You joined wayfarer 6 days ago, that's fine.
And fun fact, no one in the community knows this "Boilerona90" nickname or someone who plays with such an account. But everyone knew "Himav" until he was removed 1 year ago for fake gps behaviour.
So I guess I finally I see one of his other accounts' name. Did you level it up on your own or it comes from ebay? I see "himav666" is very active there buying accounts and shiny pkmns. Google it.
I'm ignoring all the other nonsense-time losing stuff.
Your personal quarrels with the many other players you have quarreled make no sense here and have nothing to do with this thread, avoid useless comments where you tell ficitional stories that have nothing to do with the three fake POIs.
My own town has a PoGo group of 1200, and no one is interested in reports or liking here.
20 Likes is far over the top in terms of this forum. Only the absolute top threads or the AMA-decision threads reach this amount of Likes on single posts. Especially since your report (as far as I can say a partially valid report) is only a small and unimportant one.
So if I would be Niantic, I would check all liking accounts for multi-acounting or acc-sharing. That's it. And the history of this thread shows, that such suggestions are true, when it comes down, that a Lvl31 Alt-Acc is reporting here .... a normal Lvl 31 player would never ever find this forum.
So in the end you are undermining your own report/appeal with lots of unplausible likes. That'S what I meant with "overdone".
I still don't understand what you're talking about, 20 likes don't seem like thousands and there are threads with more likes here, I simply shared this thread in the group of players where I play and they liked, being much more than twenty the likes are pure few compared to the total of players, so the accusations of multiaccount, account sharing and alt account are funny. However, I found this forum after a lot of months in fact because other players told me about it and asked me for help even if I don't play a lot because we had to write here in English and in any case we are not in the "deep web", therefore also a level account 5 can find this forum and in fact we will let new players know it immeidately, don't worry. Obviously this report seems small and insignificant for those who do not play locally, players for whom it is impactful.
But I appreciate that you understand that the report is still valid, the only thing that matters and for which this thread was created, so other stories or made-up accusations don't matter.
Then explain why only your posts got the likes while others who are against you (especially @Raachermannl-ING since he's from Germany) got the disagrees. You know the likes/disagrees ratio won't affect Niantic decision, right?
@NianticGiffard since the case is clear that the POIs are on PRP, why don't you take actions already to the Wayspots and the Wayfinder, and close this thread?
It was explained in the last comment, we are hundreds players locally and likes was useful for POIs photos and we thought also here, so what is strange? He get disagrees as first comment and for unrelated view (talk about the thread, likes are irrelevants).
But thanks for writing your clear and obvious consideration about these three fake POIS.
Please, show me where I've been aggressive or where my anger came out with any unpleasant attitude. I'll be ready to apologize.
And everyone knows what eBay is. It was the easiest query: "himav666", who has plenty of excellent feedbacks on his (your) successfull trades. I think this is something against TOS as well.
If you are so sure of my "business" alike prove it like you so efficiently did it for the wayspots.
Speaking of which, I'll quote what @Cuordipietra-ING said. The streetview official photos at those location are dated April 2019, you can see yourself on the screenshots on the very first post here. They're old, it's very likely the real location might be different, as in fact is.
And that's exactly what 360° photos are made for. Almost everyone who contributes to Wayfarer took some to document an area not covered by Google Maps, or with out of date content.
I apologize to the community if we went too far and out of topic here, I just don't like when a report is made based on personal issues and I thought it was the case to point it out, clearing what's fiction from what's reality.
For me this can ends here and now. It's hard to communicate with someone who doesn't want to, even in direct channels out of this platform.
Hello! We have reviewed the report and have taken action on the 3 Wayspots and Wayfinder in accordance with our policies. While we are unable to discuss our actions in detail to protect the submitter’s privacy, they may include, but are not limited to, sending a warning message, placing restrictions on their Wayfarer, Pokémon GO, or Ingress account, putting their account on probation, or placing a temporary or permanent suspension on their Wayfarer, Pokémon GO or Ingress account.
Having said that, I'll close this thread for future comments.