Are information boards or map boards eligible?
hillhouse-PGO
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I have been seeing nominations for map boards (for parks or the neighbourhood) or information boards (for flyers or community announcements). Are they eligible?
My gut feel is no because they are not particularly unique or culturally significant, but would be good to get clarity.
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Gendgi-PGO
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Woah there. Community boards are typically eligible.
January 2019 AMA
Q25: In the UK we have "Community Notice Boards" in residential areas, often maintained by the parish or district council or the residents' association. I think these make good portals but that's a heavily debated topic on the OPR chat and about half the notice boards I submit get approved. Does NIA think these are eligible to become portals?
A25: They do hold the function of being community gathering places. But like many things, it is likely to be very situational. They should follow the same guidelines as the Little Free Libraries.
I have nominated a few that are freestanding boards in parks that allow parks and cities to share important notices to the community or allow community members to share information with one another that have all been accepted, and I typically approve similar ones.
Map directories inside a store or mall are typically not eligible, but one that is a park key or map of prominent tourist destinations in a city typically are.
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(My comment with photos is coming after review)
Map boards for parks or regions, are suitable.
Community noticeboards for flyers etc, are not.
Woah there. Community boards are typically eligible.
January 2019 AMA
Q25: In the UK we have "Community Notice Boards" in residential areas, often maintained by the parish or district council or the residents' association. I think these make good portals but that's a heavily debated topic on the OPR chat and about half the notice boards I submit get approved. Does NIA think these are eligible to become portals?
A25: They do hold the function of being community gathering places. But like many things, it is likely to be very situational. They should follow the same guidelines as the Little Free Libraries.
I have nominated a few that are freestanding boards in parks that allow parks and cities to share important notices to the community or allow community members to share information with one another that have all been accepted, and I typically approve similar ones.
Map directories inside a store or mall are typically not eligible, but one that is a park key or map of prominent tourist destinations in a city typically are.
I get local council and community notice boards accepted all of the time, as do others. For example, village parish council notice boards and residents' assocation notice boards. These types of boards provide useful information to those passing by. If you're voting against such things then you must be in the minority. But @Gendgi put it better than I could.
I've nominated half a dozen before and the same since OPR/Wayfarer and all have been rejected on two continents.
Have you got examples?
I do. I'll post some in a minute, hopefully they get approved quickly.
Edit: uploaded examples, pending moderation.
Doing a quick search of my own, the overwhelming majority appear to be in the UK.
Supplemental: Right at the junction for the Greenbelt trail and Raccoon River Valley. This community notice board is open to the public to share information and parks announcements. It should be visible on satellite, and photos show trail junction.
Supplemental: Point of interest is a community board in Colby Park that is used by park & city officials as well as general public to share information. Keeps the community in contact and encourages communication. Visible on satelite and supporting photo shows distinctive nearby ballfield.
I have another in voting that I don't want to share at risk of potentially influencing reviewers, but I used text similar to "Community boards, such as this, connect people to each other and provide valuable information. This posts park announcements and allows for community information sharing."
Forgive their weathered look - these were both nominated late winter/early spring.
Park and region maps have always have been, as long as they represent a significant structure in their own right.
Suitable (https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=34.033367,-84.305275&z=15&pll=34.033367,-84.305275)
Community driven noticeboards generally are not.
Not Suitable
I agree with your park map, but stand that the community driven notice board you provided should be acceptable.
Adding: if you had that notice board rejected, I suggest trying again with an emphasis on the value notice boards provide to the community. I could see somebody rejecting for the face in the photo, but I think they would be wrong for it in this context.
Nothing wrong with community driven noticeboards in my eyes - as Casey say's @adetia9-PGO" Freestanding, outdoor community notice boards seem to me to fall within the 'community gathering' criteria".
Here a variety of examples from me. Do note that I've tended to provide web links in the supplemental information. This often helps nominations.
A residents' association notice board (note the useful information I provided in the descrption of the nomination, and yes, I know my 'turn around times' for nominations is super quick; accepted on May 22nd and submitted on May 19th):
Conservation society notice board:
Parish council notice board (since there are multiple of these around the parish council area, I have indicated its location in the title to avoid confusion):
@Perringaiden-ING casey herself has said the only notice boards not allowed ate the ones in supermarkets (though technically done of them could be acceptable if they are fully community ones and not used for advertisements for businesses) and ones that's only use is advertising for businesses (was more aimed at electronic notice boards that one buy it would still work for community ones)
...another reason why all the criteria updates and clarifications need to be consolidated; examples as above would be perfect.
I note these are all in the UK still, but fair enough.
A lot of controversial stuff, some things need to be unique or historical and others don't.
Don't think of the uniqueness as being one in a million, or the cultural/historical requirement as being strictly significant monuments. A community notice board is culturally significant in that it provides a place for the community to come together and share important information with one another, such as park events, concerts, trail closures, or general announcements. A notice board inside a fast food restaurant would be more likely just fliers and advertisements.
I'm having a lot of trouble getting these kinds of things accepted in Japan. I think because the only place with information one way or another is in forums here or old Ingress AMAs where the information is only in English. Is there any chance we could get a clarification about community notice boards added in other languages directly on the Wayfarer help pages somehow?
There are a lot of 掲示板 (bulletin board) / 公設掲示板 (public facing bulletin board) / 町会掲示板 (town association bulletin board) and they are often located in the less urban places in Japan with fewer options for good Wayspots. I think they are great things to nominate and in line with all the things other people have gotten Accepted in this thread, but 90% of the time they get rejected in Japan with random bogus reasons. I'm pretty sure it's because people just don't know if they should be accepted or not, and too often err on the side of rejecting things.
indeed...
... though that does make me wonder if noticeboards in rural shops should be eligible. Over here in Finland, we don't have many outdoor notice boards (snow tends to make those problematic). So the communal noticeboards for events and such are usually located in the shops, libraries, post offices, etc. And these days rural libraries and post offices are largely gone, so it's mainly shop noticeboards now. Despite the location, those don't usually have any shop-related fliers.
I think that's an excellent point that I tend to agree with, @Zaltys-ING, and Casey's comments (and mine) don't outright say they would be ineligible, just that they would be less likely to have interesting events and important announcements posted on them. I think they, like many other things, get a bad rep by reviewers and over eager to associate the nomination with the generic business.