Brand new submitters and serial abusers should have a much lower limit
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There is a difference between having the daily accrual of 1 each day, and starting off with the 40 stockpiled nomination limit off the bat just because you reached Level 10/38 in Ingress/Pokemon GO and passed the Wayfarer test (coming soon).
- People are highly likely to spam the same nomination multiple times so they can use up all their nominations.
- People do not get feedback from existing nominations before they go off and try and resubmit it with the rejections in mind (if they even do read and look at their nominations management).
- It is much harder work to wait for nomination slots to come back each day and submit it
Not everyone should start with 40. The limit should increase as your prowess and submission ability is proven with quality and approved nominations. Maybe you can start off with 3 nominations and see how it goes. But what if your area has a problem with long waiting times or bad reviewers? Then consider asking Niantic to manually review some nominations in your area.
Furthermore, absolutely brand new submitters (who are highly likely to submit garbage) should have a high proportion of their nominations routed to a Niantic manual review, maybe a 60% chance that your nomination will be reviewed by Niantic. Then as you get more of your nominations approved, the chance of Niantic swiping your nominations decreases until it becomes virtually zero (i.e. you're in a place where your nominations resolve in less than a fortnight on average and you have a very high approval/success rate). No doubt that pure coal and trash is submitted by people who are yet to have had their first approval or who haven't even done the onboarding test yet.
But what do you do when:
- A new Wayfinder logs into Wayfarer...
- Passes the Wayfarer test (with the question about nominations not being allowed on school grounds), and then...
- Submits a nomination of their living room TV, a Pokemon, their face or a school?
As for anyone who has had any issues in the past or has a history of abuse, their nomination limits (and probably accrual rates) should be heavily restricted. The main reason is because someone who I had previously reported has gone off and resubmitted all of their trash nominations in an attempt to replace some of the lost nominations and other things which have been rejected over and over again without any attempt to improve the photo or to even stop "attaching a photosphere to prove permanence" to a stupid so-called community-oriented "pansexual pole" that is literally just a random pole in the street painted in a temporary coat of paint. Furthermore, anyone who has had their nominations reasonably reported as abuse (and not just by bad reviewers mass-rejecting everything for abuse) should also have an almost 100% or an incredibly high rate of their nominations being reviewed by Niantic. Then when you can see that the same LFL has been submitted over 26 times in front of the same house, you can check their nomination history so that you can then immediately take action and eliminate their privileges.
At the same time, contributions should also be limited. If you like seeing Mara over and over again, then that is really just the result of someone being stupid one day (or over a couple) and submitting lame photos everywhere. Limit it right at the beginning. While we wait for the locking down of submission features as mentioned in the 2021 Playback and Roadmap Update, consider heavily limiting contributions. You'll never know if someone is going to submit quality photos or just post photos of their Pokemon GO AR Flareon everywhere, so limit them in the beginning and have them prove their the title, description, location edits, and photo submissions are up to scratch before you slowly increase their limit to the maximum contribution limit.
But what about if an experienced or veteran Wayfinder starts being abusive and submitting bad things and edits? Well, that's for another post.
An explorer needs to prove that they are an effective Wayfinder first. Because there is zero distinction between a fantastic Wayfinder with over 1.5k wayspots approved with 50k total nominations reviewed, and someone who submits trash, coal nominations, and abusive photos/edits. To be a Wayfinder is a privilege, and Wayfinding is a real skill to have.
All Wayfinders are explorers, but not all explorers should be Wayfinders.
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Serial abusers should have their ability to nominate taken away entirely, not just have it reduced.
Yes true, but linking the submission limitations to submission/review quality would be a good thing, as it would also help with insane waiting times in certain places.
Another thing that might help is auto detect duplicate entries and present them in wayfarer all at once, for reviewers to judge if these are identical can be merged, if so it would save tremendous amounts of review time in areas with years of processing time.
@NianticTintino Interesting suggestions here.