Are wayspots in multi-family condominium such as playground, fitness corner, clubhouse eligible?

I thought that the Nov AMA and many threads of communication in the "Criteria Clarification" had indicated that playgrounds etc in multi-family private residence are eligible as long as they meet all of the acceptance criteria. I am having all of such nominations in a condominium with over 500 families rejected listing "private residence or farm" as the reason for rejection. Can someone pls help to clarify? Thank you.

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  • ericngyk001-PGOericngyk001-PGO Posts: 3 ✭✭

    Thank you very much for the affirmation. But.....seems like a ton of reviewers are rejecting it despite the official position from Niantic via the Nov 2021 AMA. I wonder would Niantic care to issue further clarification. I really think there is a need considering that so many reviewers are still using the "Private Residence" rejection reason once they see any nomination in apartment complexes and condominiums. It is also evident in many nominations submitted by players reiterating the point that wayspots in condominiums should be eligible as long as they meet all the acceptance criteria. Would Niantic Support comment on this? Thank you.

  • AgentX1976-INGAgentX1976-ING Posts: 598 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It's really hard to tell without seeing any pictures what they may be looking at. In general yes they are acceptable. But there could be mitigating factors such as not being able to see the items from satellite pictures or from street view. At the very least post the longitude and latitude coordinates and someone can take a quick look and see if they see anything that jumps out as weird.

  • sogNinjaman-INGsogNinjaman-ING Posts: 3,313 ✭✭✭✭✭
    edited January 2022

    I think part of the problem is likely to be in the translation of the "PRP" criteria into languages other than English, particualrly as a lot of the issues we see in the forums relate to the fact that somehow people have the impression that condominions are effectively not eligible because they contain individual "private residences" within.

  • ericngyk001-PGOericngyk001-PGO Posts: 3 ✭✭

    OK, good points and really appreciate the affirmation. Thank you, guys.

  • DLuarcaOmega-PGODLuarcaOmega-PGO Posts: 92 Ambassador

    I think that the "Criteria clarification" is very clear, the problem is in the reviewers, how much of the ppl are reading the forums?. in the Niantic side: a) The criteria section didn´t have a paragraph explainin that condominium and apartaments complexes and b) the test don't cover that scenario. My personal opinion: Wayfarer has to enforce the update in the knowledge of the criteria, updates and clarification and maybe make that regularly ALL Reviewers presents a new test to esnure new concepts and criteria. I think that making mandatory le test for all of the contributors it's a good step for enhancing the quality of reviewers/Contributors, but it's very important that all of us understand and consequently act under the criteria, updates and clarification.

  • MargariteDVille-INGMargariteDVille-ING Posts: 2,848 ✭✭✭✭✭

    There's a difference in private living space - vs a shared area for residents.

    An object at a house or condo or apartment - is not valid. Like a statue inside, or metal art on the deck or balcony.

    A place of shared recreation for many residents - is valid. Like a tennis court or playground in a neighborhood or apartment common area.

    The main difference about types of dwellings is - for single family homes, the yard is private (along with the inside).

  • ericng142-PGOericng142-PGO Posts: 2 ✭✭

    I recently submitted 3 nominations (a Club House, a Grand Pavilion and a Herb Pavilion) in a multi-family condominium BUT were all rejected with "Private Residence or farm" as the reason. The condo (Botanique At Bartley completed in 2019) has 797 units and occupies a huge area with not a single accepted way spot. In the supporting information of the nomination, I cited the Nov 2020 AMA clarifications on the eligibility of way spots in multi-family residence and also the numerous postings in this Wayfarer forum, BUT all nominations were still rejected. It is totally frustrating! BUT - in another smaller condo (Bartley Residence) which is just 100m away, I saw 2 approved way spots (Waterfall feature and Fitness Park) which I do not understand how they got approved. I totally agree that the issue probably lies in the Reviewers. It seems that Niantic is not addressing this major issue. Anyone has any good suggestions to resolve this? Appreciate your advice. Thank you

  • PkmnTrainerJ-INGPkmnTrainerJ-ING Posts: 5,125 Ambassador

    You can Appeal one a month. If it’s not easy for you to resubmit them. But you can share your full nominations for more advice.

  • Duiomar-PGODuiomar-PGO Posts: 458 ✭✭✭✭✭

    PRP doesn't even do a good job of explaining what it means in English. It really should be more clear that it means single family residences. "Private" doesn't make that sufficiently clear.

  • ericng142-PGOericng142-PGO Posts: 2 ✭✭

    Good points. Thank you very much for the reinforcement that way spots in multi-family residences/condominiums are eligible. I really hope Niantic can do something to clarify things. Thanks again.

  • DocLippy-PGODocLippy-PGO Posts: 4 ✭✭

    In my opinion, almost any playground is permissible. They are a great place for kids to explore and for parents to socialize. Further, they are absolutely pedestrian safe! ^_^ As long as the playground is not for ONE FAMILY, as in a single family residence's backyard, it should be a nice choice!

  • X0bai-PGOX0bai-PGO Posts: 1,667 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Just a note from my experience that condo/apartment clubhouse submissions are typically very low quality. If they lack signage, look like houses, and aren’t marked on Google - which is the case for every single club house submission I’ve ever seen - then you’re a long way from convincing the average reviewer to vote for approval.

  • Viola1707-PGOViola1707-PGO Posts: 1 ✭✭

    I personally don't understand how something that is available ONLY to people who live in a certain apartment or condo area, can be a POI. For example, a private condo corp in my town has a pool, I can NOT swim in said pool or even walk on that property unless accompanied by a resident. So how does that make a great spot to socialize/explore/exercise? If only they can use their property, how does it qualify? My personal pool can only be used by me and my guests, how would this be any different? very curious how this works. The logic escapes me here.

  • Elijustrying-INGElijustrying-ING Posts: 5,483 Ambassador

    It’s not a place where you can socialise, but it is a place where others can socialise.

    In the case of a gated community entrance is by living there.

    Places such as Disneyworld and the like only those who pay the entrance fee can go there.

    Some places are only reachable by those able to walk a long distance perhaps uphill.

    Many places have “barriers” some visible, some not. But if some people can be there that’s fine.

  • TrevorAlan-PGOTrevorAlan-PGO Posts: 998 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Because it's accessible, it doesn't have to be ALL 24/7. Parks close at night, places have gates or key cards. If it's accessible by some, then its accessible and eligible, if its accessible by literally nobody, its rejected because no pedestrian access.

    Pools are a no. Residentially focused pools are a liability risk, and are not eligible. A pool at a fitness center, or community (for a city or town) pool where competitions are held or theres a life guard, sure. Apartment/Condo/HOA pool. No.

    And a private (insert object here) on a private single family residential property land is no, because its PRP liability, and then its accessible to technically 1 person (or persons aka the family).

    Private single family home and common area for ALL residents of a condo/apartment complex is two completely different things.

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