Fake: Achtung Wildschwein
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Title of the Wayspot: Achtung Wildschwein
Location: 53.63987,14.000082
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Photos to support your claim:
Additional information: This painted junction box was faked in the town of Karlsburg and apparently someone stole these photos from Wayfarer to fake in the town of Torgelow as well.
The fake has now been accepted. Please delete the fake and warn the cheater.
Photo stolen from: https://www.appolloart.com/illusion-malerei-berlin-dresden-wildschwein-brandenburg/
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I just discovered something else. Apparently, that person submitted at least one other fake.
Title of the Wayspot: Auf dem Naturparkweg
Location: 53.639961,13.998802
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Photos to support your claim:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/M3fttTfUmDY7H8_3iJ8XEW71HpvKu9I01eGIgYwarTCcLEz5L91Wol8F4_nla0ty69u0NaCg5dAHuONbvo8A7OT4tGY5FpnL0DwgdiI=s0
Additional information: There is a map on the information board at the bottom left. A red dot is drawn on the map which marks the location of the map. The marked location does not match the wayspot location. I ask for location correction!
The correct location should be around here: 53.642902, 14.000985
@NianticGiffard Take a look at the background and the satellite view of these 2 wayspots too. I see houses in the photos, but there aren't any on satellite. There's something wrong. I reckon that's even more wrong there. I'll go there soon and then probably give you some work, there will probably be a lot to delete. Time to hike :)
Beispiel einer Lebensgemeinschaft in einen Laubwald - 53.635377,13.994173
Biomethananlage - 53.637676,13.986089
@WayfarerMSE-PGO - Just to share an update with you, we have taken action on the Wayspots "Achtung Wildschwein" & "Auf dem Naturparkweg" and the Wayfinder in accordance with our policies. For the other two Wayspots i.e. "Beispiel einer Lebensgemeinschaft in einen Laubwald" & "Biomethananlage" we'll have them reviewed and I'll let you know as soon it's done.
Thank you. I'll probably go there today and check it on the spot. I'll give you feedback later.
Sure! We have reviewed the remaining 2 Wayspots you have flagged and have retired the Wayspot "Beispiel einer Lebensgemeinschaft in einen Laubwald" however for "Biomethananlage" we need additional evidence (photospheres, geotagged images) to review it further.
Thanks, but you can undo that now. The Wayspot is real, but it was in the wrong place. Restore it and move it to the right place.
Even though I have already proven that the wayspot from the start post was a fake, you still have a photo of the location where the fake was placed. There is definitely nothing there.
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Before we start, I have one more request for you: I walked the entire route in the forest and photographed everything that is suitable for a wayspot, regardless of whether it is already a wayspot or not. This way I can directly prove where the correct location is in case the scammers submit fakes again.
In case they come up with the idea again and fake something that doesn't exist there, please don't let me run into the forest again. I have seen everything. If I say something doesn't exist there, please just believe me. I don't want to go into the forest unnecessarily and take pictures of empty spots where there is nothing.
And now, let the game begin...
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Title of the Wayspot: Auf dem Naturparkweg
Location: 53.642907,14.000956
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Old Location:
Current, New & Correct Location:
Additional information: This is just for your information and as proof that you can trust me and the data on the info board and that you have now corrected the location correctly.
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2.)
RESTORE
Title of the Wayspot: Beispiel einer Lebensgemeinschaft in einen Laubwald
Location: 53.635377,13.994173
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Photos to support your claim:
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Title of the Wayspot: Infotafel Ökosystem Wald
Location: 53.632315,13.995038
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Photos to support your claim:
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Title of the Wayspot: Infotafel Wild und Jagd
Location: 53.632557,13.994992
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Photos to support your claim:
Additional information: The current location should be correct. This is for your information only.
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5.)
Title of the Wayspot: Willkommen in Torgelow
Location: 53.632298,13.993867
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Photos to support your claim:
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6.)
Title of the Wayspot: Informationsschild im Wald
Location: 53.637595,13.994164
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Photos to support your claim:
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Title of the Wayspot: Späte Traubenkirsche
Location: 53.637901,13.989722
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Photos to support your claim:
Additional information: I have not found this information board anywhere in the entire forest. However, I found an identical fake at another location (see Number 8 below), so I assume this plaque was stolen and arbitrarily placed temporarily for a photo.
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8.)
Title of the Wayspot: Späte Traubenkirsche
Location: 53.654026,13.88824
City: Ferdinandshof
Country: Germany
Photos to support your claim:
Additional information: Fake.
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Title of the Wayspot: Biomethananlage
Location: 53.637676,13.986089
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Photos to support your claim:
Additional information: Only the satellite view is not up to date. I don't recommend a visit unless you like the smell of methane.
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Title of the Wayspot: Mögliche Folgen des Waldsterbens
Location: 53.640697,13.980675
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Current Location:
Correct Location:
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Title of the Wayspot: Tierweitsprung
Location: 53.64254,13.985977
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Photos to support your claim:
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12.)
Title of the Wayspot: Erholungsfunktion des Waldes
Location: 53.641361,13.984723
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Current Location:
Correct Location:
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Title of the Wayspot: Schutzfunktion des Waldes
Location: 53.642262,13.991803
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
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Title of the Wayspot: Infoschild im Wald
Location: 53.639677,13.991927
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Photos to support your claim:
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Title of the Wayspot: Die Aufgabe der Forstwirtschaft
Location: 53.641161,13.999586
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Photos to support your claim:
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Title of the Wayspot: Woran leidet der Wald
Location: 53.643069,14.000639
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Photos to support your claim:
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Title of the Wayspot: Einheimische Laubbäume
Location: 53.640774,13.997025
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Photos to support your claim:
Additional information: I just realized I took the wrong photo. So I have to hope that you trust me. The wayspot is fake because it is actually a duplicate of the wayspot "Einheimische Nadelbäume und Sträucher" at coordinates "53.64289,13.988946" because it is the back of the information board.
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Title of the Wayspot: Lebensraum Totholz
Location: 53.638754,13.996181
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Photos to support your claim:
Additional information: Fake.
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Title of the Wayspot: Der Natur auf der Spur
Location: 53.639749,13.997279
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Current Location:
Correct Location:
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Title of the Wayspot: Naturpark am Stettiner Haff
Location: 53.641562,13.998695
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Photos to support your claim:
Additional information: First of all: Please be careful when deleting! I'm not sure, but I think I edited the title or description through my Ingress account months ago without actually being there. I don't want to be punished. I have nothing to do with this fake!
For further explanation: I took the photo you see from the path, but the Wayspot is in the middle of the **** off the path - which according to the Wayspot photo cannot be. In addition, this is a generic sign, which is usually located at the entrance of every German nature reserve. Thus, it offers no added value for wayfarers. See Wikipedia.
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Title of the Wayspot: Landwirtschaft Waldschild
Location: 53.642639,13.999099
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Photos to support your claim:
Additional information: FAKE.
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Title of the Wayspot: Schornsteinfeger Meister Auszeichnung
Location: 53.637235,14.017591
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Photos to support your claim:
Additional information: Fake. Something like that is definitely not attached to a block of flats without a chimney. This must be attached to some normal house.
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Title of the Wayspot: https://community.wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/discussion/comment/140588#Comment_140588
Location: 53.690628,14.114423
City: Eggesin
Country: Germany
Photos to support your claim:
Additional information: back of the information board.
Another thing: in the village of Ferdinandshof I noticed 2 wayspots that are on the grounds of a kindergarten and should therefore be deleted due to K12.
Spielplatz Storchennest - 53.660863,13.882831
Wandmalerei Storchennest - 53.661545,13.882884
https://www.ferdinandshof.de/schule-und-kita
https://www.kita.de/kita/15207
@NianticGiffard He tries again, but this time in a different place with identical images.
@NianticGiffard The fake from the start post has now been accepted again. Now just a different title and a different location. Please remove it again and punish the submitter!
Title of the Wayspot: Achtung Wild!
Location: 53.642875,14.001151
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Photo stolen from: https://www.appolloart.com/illusion-malerei-berlin-dresden-wildschwein-brandenburg/
@NianticGiffard The fake from the start post has now been accepted again. Now just a different title and a different location. Please remove it again and punish the submitter!
Title of the Wayspot: Achtung Wild!
Location: 53.642875,14.001151
City: Torgelow
Country: Germany
Photo stolen from: https://www.appolloart.com/illusion-malerei-berlin-dresden-wildschwein-brandenburg/
Hi there, @WayfarerMSE-PGO, thanks for following up! We have reviewed the report and have taken action on the reported Wayspots whereas the Wayfinders who were involved in it were already punished.
In order to look into the Wayspot "Naturpark am Stettiner Haff", we would need additional information. Hence if you share it at your convenience, we can proceed to review it.
Thank you. I'll see how it looks after syncing. Hope the new fake is already gone by then.
I will not go there again for that one wayspot. I can only tell you that you can see on the photo of the wayspot mentioned that it is directly on a path. However, the Wayspot is placed off the beaten path and was not to be found on the way there. That's why I only took a photo from the path to show that you can't see anything there. But as already said, these signs are also mass-produced. This is felt at every forest entrance and nature reserve in Germany. Who knows where it was actually photographed. At least not there.
The synchronization is now complete. I've looked at the area again and it looks ok so far, but I still have 2 things to complain about.
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Wayspot number 23 was not deleted, let alone moved. Probably because I inserted a URL instead of the name in the heat of the moment. My mistake. Wayspot number 23 has the name: "Metamorphose - kein Falterleiden"
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Something went wrong while editing wayspot number 17 "Einheimische Laubbäume"
I had written that it was a duplicate of "Einheimische Nadelbäume und Sträucher" at coordinates "53.64289,13.988946". You have now correctly removed the Wayspot "Einheimische Laubbäume". But for some reason you have now moved the original "Einheimische Nadelbäume und Sträucher" which was in the correct place to "53.641992,13.98999". The deletion of number 17 was correct, but please move the original back to the original and correct location. Thank you.
@NianticGiffard By the way, after you have taken care of the content of my previous comment, you can delete this fake junction box again. The faker does not give up and continues unmolested.
Title: Achtung Wildschwein
Location: 53.639898,14.00005
Photo stolen from: https://www.appolloart.com/illusion-malerei-berlin-dresden-wildschwein-brandenburg/
How many times do I have to report this before you finally ban the player? These scammers don't seem to care about your warnings?!
Hey there! We had already retired the Wayspot and taken action on the Wayfinder.
Thanks.
Can you please make the changes from the comment I quoted as well?
@NianticGiffard Do you remember what I asked for before I reported everything? The faker has now resubmitted one of the fakes and it has been accepted elsewhere. A spot I don't have photos of. Will you please trust me and remove the fake again? I'm tired of having to report this over and over again. Your warnings are useless. They keep going!
New Fake:
Title: Landwirtschaft
Current Location: 53.637053,13.998816
The fake was originally number 21 on my list. This is exactly the same picture as before, just in a different place. Please remove!
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Oh and if something like that is possible, I would ask you to contact me privately. I have a short request.
I found the proof! I found the original! At this point there is a whole nature trail of these signs!
The original is at the following coordinates: 53.905408,12.829484
So please remove the fakes in Torgelow and stop the submitter!
We have taken action on the Wayspot "Landwirtschaft" after our review.
However, for the Wayspots "Metamorphose - kein Falterleiden" and "Einheimische Nadelbäume und Sträucher", we're able to take action due to insufficient evidence. Hence, if you may share the geotagged images for them, we can proceed accordingly.
Einheimische Nadelbäume und Sträucher
I just looked at number 17 again myself and now understand why you changed the location.
My app must have had problems with the photo and did not take over the current/correct GPS location.
Current (New & Wrong) Location: (53.641992,13.98999)
Correct (Old & Correct) Location: (53.64289,13.988946)
I assure you that the information I gave is correct and the geotagged photo at number 17 shows the wrong location in this one case.
I'm uncomfortable now!
Title: Metamorphose - kein Falterleiden
Location: 53.690628,14.114423
City: Eggesin
Country: Germany
Photos to support your claim:
Additional information: back of the information board.
For Wayspot "Metamorphose - kein Falterleiden" see the following comment:
For Wayspot "Einheimische Nadelbäume und Sträucher" see the following comment:
@NianticGiffard Sorry for my arrogant comment. I've edited/deleted it now. The whole situation just upsets me because the fakers keep going. At some point there has to be an end.
Thanks for following up!
Could you please share the geotagged photo of "Einheimische Nadelbäume und Sträucher" through another device if you have any since you had experienced issues with the mobile app?
Also, the location mentioned in the geotagged image you shared here is actually for "Gaukler Sterben" although the image shows otherwise.
For the Wayspot "Einheimische Nadelbäume und Sträucher" I only have this one photo. I will not visit this location again in the foreseeable future to take a new photo, unless new fakes urge me to do so.
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"Gaukler sterben" and "Metamorphose - kein Falterleiden" are the same information board. One is the front and the other is the back. The board is printed on both sides, that's why I wrote "back of the information board" in the additional information.
I appreciate you for sharing more context on it! We have taken action on the Wayspot "Metamorphose - kein Falterleiden" after giving it another look.
However, for the Wayspot "Einheimische Nadelbäume und Sträucher" our team can't take action on it due to insufficient evidence.
Thanks very much! I will continue to monitor the area and as soon as I am given a reason to go there again, I will provide you with the necessary evidence. But only when the fuel prices have fallen again 🙈
I wish you and the whole team a nice weekend!
The fake "Landwirtschaft" (53.637053,13.998816) is still there, at least that's what I see on the Intel map. Please remove it.
Now the fake is gone. The city finally looks clean now. Thanks. And sorry for the inconvenience.
@NianticGiffard The faker from Torgelow is now trying again. Below are the photos from Wayfarer, based on the satellite view and my geotagged photos that I sent you the other day, it can be seen directly that the location is not correct. He tries again at the old location where various other fakes have already been deleted. I assume he lives there.
Location: 53.640029, 13.998833
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/K04j1147BBfGRAk4WeB7adySEBgYz0pLwr2y1cDka9w5l5pKo9tpDtuBZGvMXd5c7U5nz66cSRjwniWr2uv5K2WA2pgxKA7gXOBaFJp3=s0
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/l2VNDJQIKHZ8gt_wmbRKFTcHYeJkZdt3gVYTbAs4z8B50iypSUMtKp-8r8OicYdXrzOiYA8ypOgmTMQGRt1dOrhee2BhTs7ZnAJ0h-uU=s0
Explanation: The photos are cropped and cannot be enlarged, this is very suspicious. In addition, you can't see the Wayspot on the surrounding photo. Instead, you see a curve there. Stupid only that there is no curve but a straight road. There is no signpost there.