No editing time for Upload-Later-Submissions
Raachermannl-ING
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Few days ago I made a submission trip, and did 2 instant submissions and further 15 upload-later-submissions, and 2 days ago additional 3 subs with upload later.
Few hours ago I uploaded the 18 upload-later-submissions.
Now I saw, that 5 of them are already in voting.
Why is there no 24h in queue phase like for all normal submissions?
Imho the time for editing is necessary. One of the candidates was for example a bench with a plaque with Latin inscription:
I have a Latin proficiency certificate, but I forgot most vocabulary over the years, and this inscription is full of abbreviations and other stuff. This needs editing afterwards, and therefore the 24h timeframe with being in queue. Leastwise this thing didn't jump in voting....
Why didnt I upload instantly?
Network traffic there is sketchy there. In most cases I received "image upload timeout" there although 3 bars LTE there. So I submitted only two imho important candidates instantly there, and tried again and again until the upload was successful.
The people in this forum pointed out multiple times, that it makes no sense, that one can't withdraw submissions, that are in voting. There are lots of reasons for that:
- withdraw submissions with dummy texts like mine: my description texts are keyboard whipes like "Kdvslsvs" and I cant withdraw them.
- prevent duplicates. Nominations stay in queue as long as there are other nearby candidates in voting. This means, that you cant know, whether there are duplicate submissions out there. But when one of them plops up, then people should have the possibility to withdraw their duplicate doomed submissions
- ....
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"Scamnum memoriale" signum non eligibile, etiam si Latine id fecerint.
Romani ite domum........
Don't talk about stuff you know nothing about.
This bench is at a mountain, that is the target for the hikes of university staff and students. There are lots of memorial stones and memorial benches, that are for different faculties and register runs. So this seems to be one of them, but a very special kind of them.
Example wayspots:
And there are way more of them out there. Lots of these objects are within 20m range to each other. Few of them are still in queue. This stuff is for sure eligible, and therefore it's totally uniimportant whether the memorial object is a stone, a stone in a bench or a plaque on a bench.
Further there is a club, that cares for events at this mountain and cares about the hiking trails there. This club also has lots of memorial benches for long deserved club members out there. Examples:
Again at least half a dozen still in queue afaik.
My "Upload later" nominations act like all others - painfully slow to go into voting.
One I uploaded over 24 hours ago, that I took while on vacation (so I don't know how long their queues are) is still In Queue.
this town is a bit special.....
Maybe you might know my old thread about the reviewing timescales. It is the crazy example, that switches between fast and slowly on a regular basis.
If you submit stuff right now there, the stuff goes fast into voting and the voting.phase is roughly 2 or 3 weeks.
But me and my folks, we havedozens of open submissions out there, that stay in neverending voting or even in-queue phase since June 2020.
So new submissions there overtake the old ones there.
Back to initial topic:
I didnt have the 24h window to edit my submissions. So these accidents with dummy-texts as description and supporting statement are now in voting:
It's also a memorial plaque at a bench. the memorial plaque is for the register run 1990 of the maths students of the local university. On top of the plaque is a quote of Jakob Bernoulli , literally translated: "All sciences need maths, but maths doesnt need them". Then the sentence with the register run, and at the end there is this strange matrix. i guess the matrices entries are the initials of the donating students.
So therefore an appropriate German description text could have been: "Gedenkbank des Mathematik-Matrikels 1990 zu deren Bergfest 1993. Die Bank trägt ein Zitat von Jakob Bernoulli sowie eine mathematische Matrix mit den Initialen der Spender als Einträge."
This is an old border marker. Highly weathered and in a **** ...... so I dunno what it stands for, but there are lots of similar stones there at one of the trails. Since it is more weathered than most of the stones there, I guess its one of the oldest ones, and that means it's most likely for the town Jena. There are lots of others, that are in better condition - those are the younger stones from 18th and 19th century for the superior duchy.
And no, although it may look like, but this is not a random rock. The local geology is limestone and sandstone - both materials dont create natural free standing rocks. For this one I expected a rejection anyways, since reviewers wont get that point, but as a completionist I wanted to submit it nethertheless.
German description could have been: "Verwitterter Grenzstein der Stadt Jena, vermutlich 16.Jahrhundert oder älter"
This bench has a quote of a famous German poet and novelist on it, Hermann Hesse. Under it a statement of the bench donors, a couple that engaged here.
And the location is magnificent - exploration criterion bullseye ;)
So here the title has a typo, and my description text would have been:
Gedenkbank mit Hermann-Hesse-Zitat: "Und jedem Anfang wohnt ein Zauber inne, der uns beschützt und der uns hilft, zu leben" aus dem Gedicht "Stufen"
Last but not least something from the foot of the mountain:
this is a restaurant, event location (easy to see because of the festival stage equipment) and coincident the restaurant is the clubhouse of two gardening clubs.
This symptom is probably due to the fact that the trigger for picking up nominations for review is supposed to be the month and date the nomination was created, not the month and date the nomination was actually submitted.
Therefore, one could say that the nomination pickup system is working correctly, but that correctness is creating another problem.
I have recently encountered a similar case and have reported it, so if you would like to report it here, I would be happy to do so.
Eventually, it is likely that the problem can be resolved by shifting the authority to push to review to the wayfinder side, but in the meantime, you need to be alerted or seek another solution.
https://community.wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/discussion/30096/upload-later-nomination-issue-no-waiting-time