Are murals on the walls/fences of private residential properties allowed?
Tntnnbltn-ING
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I stumbled across a number of live Wayspots which are on the walls/fences/garage doors of private residential properties. Thinking that this was against the private residential property rules, I reported them. This included:
- Pink Dragon’s Wrath (-31.935283,115.870599)
- Santa Frida (-31.93523,115.870342)
- Lemon Tree Girl by Paul Deej (2016) (-31.935086,115.869194)
These three reports were all rejected, even though they are pretty clearly painted onto the fences/walls/garages of private residential houses. I have been rejecting similar sorts of nominations as being on Private Residential Property when I have seen them.
Is the lack of takedown from Niantic a sign that such Wayspots are allowed? And we should not consider them private residential properties?
The reason I ask is because there's about 30 more murals painted onto private residential properties in this same laneway. If they are allowed, I would submit them all. But I don't want to spend an entire month's worth of submissions if they are not allowed.
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@NianticGiffard Are you able to possibly find out more information from here about whether these sorts of nominations are allowed? Or alternatively whether a mistake was made when the invalid Wayspot reports were rejected?
If you do get a negative answer that all of these murals should be rejected and removed for an official Laneway Collective Street Art Project, do keep me in the know so the entirety of Newtown and Marrickville can be blown up to smithereens (wayspot-wise, that is).
@NianticGiffard There was a request for a clarification here, but it has been two weeks with no response. Are you able to assist please?
"Official" street art or not, if they are on the walls or fence belonigng to a PRP then they are ineligible as per Niantics repeated comments on the subject.
@sogNinjaman-ING That's what I thought would have been the answer, but Niantic rejected all three Invalid Wayspot reports. 🤔 That is why I would really like a public clarification.
In that case, you have to go through the "Invalid Waypoint Appeals" process on this forum - one Waypoint per thread, follow the template for reporting you get when you make a new post in there.
@NianticGiffard has already answered this question.
In particular:
Any object on the property of private residential property is ineligible. As long as it is on the property of private residential property even if accessible from a sidewalk nearby, it should be rejected.
And before anyone says this is a random forum post. The rejection criteria itself unambiguous and explicitly lists private residential property as an ineligible location. Also, such clarification wouldn't have been necessary in the first place if people weren't taking a previous comment from Giffard out of context to justify nominating objects on the edge of private residential property.
I always accept those when reviewing because in my area they are commonly accepted, so if I don't accept those, my rating will go down.
Niantic doesn't allow them, but people almost always accept them.
I know I shouldn't but I don't want my rating to go down.
You shouldn't care about your rating. If you follow the criteria, your rating will be fine. Your rating will take a much bigger hit if you fail a pre-reviewed nomination. And if everyone follows the consensus, the consensus will never change.
I voted against the consensus many times, and I never fell out of great rating. Some of the consensus has changed for the better since then.
All three were removed via appeals on the forum. The last one came through today.
Have fun in Newtown and Marrickville.
Forget it. Do it yourself. They're all just going to be resubmitted anyway.
@HaramDingo-ING Point me in the right direction and I’ll give it a look over when I have some time. 👍
The easiest and fastest way to get these wayspots removed is reporting them in the wayfarer Help tab , there's an orange chat button in the lower right corner that opens a chat, they ask the motive, choose "report wayfarer abuse" then "criteria issues" and it'll ask you for the wayspot information, they are usually reviewed the same day at night and in the next wayspot sync it will be gone.
Where do rowhouses and rowhouses converted into apartments fall under this?
It only matters single family, or no. If one family is in one row house, it's considered PRP rejection. If two families are in one row house, it's now not PRP rejection. This us a very tricky difference to prove in practice, imho.