Fountains, marker placed in the water - eligible or?
Ladyfoil-PGO
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Hi all,
I would like to ask about how to nominate fountains.
Often the show up, with the marker placed in the middle of the water. At first i thought that is correct, since the fountain "IS" there. But then i considered it non eligible, since a pedestrian cannot go into the water.
I discovered we can replace the marker to get a better point but here lies my question:
I recently understood, the people place markers to get more gyms (something with the grid in ING). I don't play that, so i just replace the marker to a point next to a footpath near the pond, as far as possible to other way spots (a fountain can be seen from whatever angle).
Am i doing the right thing, or should i do something else?
Comments
Fountains in the middle of ponds or lakes are not eligible for pedestrian access, as you figured out. It's not a matter of moving the pin. They are not eligible.
If, however, there is a plaque on the shore with pedestrian access that includes relevant information about the fountain (such as it being a memorial fountain for Person-of-Interest) then the plaque becomes a suitable nomination PoI.
There are two different kinds of fountains. One is the kind that is in the middle of a lake or pond and sprays a jet into the air. These are often used as part of an aeration system and are ineligible due to pedestrian access, as the fountain in that case is purely the mechanism that propels the water into the air, which is obviously in the middle of the water and, unless you're that one guy from that one religious book, you can't walk on water.
The other kind of fountain is a self contained decorative centerpiece. These come with their own basin and water supply, rather than using water from a natural body such as a pond or lake. They often look artistic. These are eligible as the fountain in this case is the full object including the basin, and you can walk right up to the edge of the basin safely. No walking on water required.
Water fountains by their nature lack pedestrian access. In a mall, a lake or a neighborhood fountains are built so that the general public can enjoy the view but not touch. I believe this is the reason fountain nominations are confusing everyone.
They should be categorically allowed or banned in total. More caveats and limitations on which ones can be nominated and which ones can’t will inevitably lead to more disagreements, frustration and inappropriate nominations.
imho it may be better to just ban “fountains” and allow “artistic water features.”
Nothing is categorically acceptable but there are categories that are inherently ineligible. Aerator fountains do not meet eligibility and have no pedestrian access. Decorative fountains might be eligible and location needs to be checked.
Whether an object meets none of the rejection and all of the acceptance criteria is the whole point of the review process.
There are some nuances. There are fountains that have large man-made basins around them. While there's no safe pedestrian access to touch the part where the water is actively fountaining the fountain + basin are considered to be the fountain and those qualify. There are excellent examples of this in Trafalgar Square.
As others have said, aerator fountains in the middle of lakes and ponds don't qualify.
As with many things wayfarer, it is about the individual instance.
We have fountains in the centre of town that are in the paved area and you can walk through them and you can certainly touch them and get wet - if only I was a kid again 😂
I think people need to not look for yes or no decisions on every possible type of object and use judgement.
The submitter needs to make a case and the reviewer needs to judge against the key criteria.