Why are the improvements now taking time to apply?
ValeryVR50-PGO
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I have noticed that now when applying an improvement to a proposal it takes more days to give it priority, before that at most it took a day.
ValeryVR50-PGO
Posts: 8 ✭✭
I have noticed that now when applying an improvement to a proposal it takes more days to give it priority, before that at most it took a day.
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When you apply one to a nomination that is still new then it causes the nomination to get stuck for 3-5 days before it enters voting. All nominations have a 1+ day wait period where they can not enter voting so that you have time to edit any mistakes you made or add more info to make the nomination better. If the upgrade gets added during this time then it confuses the system and the 1+ wait period becomes a 3-5 day wait period. Only apply upgrades to nominations that are at least 36 hours old.
I've had nominations where I promptly applied an 'Upgrade', as you appear to have done, and it has taken up to a week before it moves from 'In Queue' to 'In Voting'. I do not see this as a problem.
Please remember that there is highly likely already a full queue ahead of you of nominations already 'In Voting' and you're not the only one who has 'Upgraded' a nomination (or more) in your cohort. If a nomination is already 'In Voting' but is not 'Upgraded' it is not going to get kicked from 'In Voting' just to make way for yours. Once a nomination (or more) has reached conclusion and moved to 'Accepted', 'Not Accepted' or 'Duplicate' room is then available for those 'In Queue' to move ahead.
The 'In Queue' and 'Upgraded', of course, get priority. But it also does not stop those 'In Queue' but not 'Upgraded' also (finally) moving ahead to 'In Voting' as soon as room is available.
The [Upgrade] button is not a 'do it right now' button. What it sounds like, in your case, is that there has recently been an increased number of nominations in your area. The process will still happen quicker when using an 'Upgrade', just not as quick as you perhaps want.
I've had a nomination go from first nominating it to 'Accepted' in slightly more than two days. Yes, I know, I was utterly shocked. However, I have a current 'Upgraded' nomination I submitted on 10 July and promptly upgraded that took a week to move to 'In Voting'... and is currently still in 'In Voting'. Note; the aforementioned two-days-to-process nomination was submitted a month later.
Niantic are very tight-lipped about how the voting process works. They seem to be afraid wayfarers/nominators will 'game the system' if they're aware of how it works. That there is a significant cohort that do that already (those trying to slip through fake nominations; and those who are apparently rejecting every nomination put before them, as seems to be the case in places such as in Germany and in the NE United States) is irrelevant to them. So it is only experience in the system that leads us to an educated guess as to what is happening, including my own.
All we can suggest, because there really isn't anything else we can do, is that you bear with it. Don't expect near-instant results as that will just lead to disappointment.
I hope this helps.
"In queue" is misleading. Niantic doesn't use a queue where things are first-in, first-out. They use a pool where nominations are somewhat randomly selected to go first. Sometimes your nomination gets taken early, sometimes there's a delay. It's just random number luck. If it's more than a week waiting with an upgrade, then you have a problem.
So, what you are saying is that the queue inferred by 'In Queue' is not actually a queue at all. Given that this is Wayfarer I confess myself utterly unsurprised by that. 😕
Niantic has said that some regions' Wayspot nominations are slow-tracked, and some are fast-tracked (while some fall in the middle). So if you're within, say, 50 miles of a big city, your nominatons could be slow-tracked - even if there are not many wayspots out where you are. Some nominations are 6 months or 3 years In Queue, or In Voting - based on proximity to a city. So, if you submit while on vacation, your wait time could be FAR different from your nominations at home.
You might think it could be partly based on the track record of the nominator. If 75% of a nominator's 450 past nominations passed, then their new nomination seems a better bet, than another nomination from someone who has had 20 of 20 turned down. But no - having lots of nominations probably counts against you. I say this because years ago Niantic flat-out said that they queue Ingress mission submissions favoring the new submitter - and queueing nominations probably uses the code originally created to queue missions.