System vulnerabilities and abuses that exploit them
Markov2097-ING
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I found the next spot on my street.
Title of the Wayspot:焼肉ときわ亭
location:https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=38.111215,140.874932&z=17&pll=38.111215,140.874932
Title of the Wayspot:インド象
location:https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=38.110768,140.874697&z=17&pll=38.110768,140.874697
Title of the Wayspot:味噌らーめん専門店 味噌乃屋田所商店
location:https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=38.107378,140.873372&z=17&pll=38.107378,140.873372
The websites for each of the stores are attached, but they are scattered throughout the country and are not local businesses; they are mass-produced products.
And the next two in the same area are out of the question.
Title of the Wayspot:牛丼専門店すき家
location:https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=38.108047,140.873545&z=17&pll=38.108047,140.873545
Title of the Wayspot:かっぱ寿司
location:https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=38.104337,140.871836&z=17&pll=38.104337,140.871836
There are few people in Japan who do not know about it.
It is such a large company with a huge number of stores in Japan.
These are the ones that were approved by willfully ignoring the disapproval criteria.
The dates show that they were never from the era of increasing seer counts, but occurred in the modern day wayfarer.
I have recently heard that some of these national chains are also maneuvering to qualify, but I guess that is just a rumor.
I think this is more of an abuse that exploits the vulnerability of some of the removal criteria, which are not in line with the screening criteria.
If the above items are not met, they are all exempt from deletion and the quality of the spot will not be seen at all.
And since Pokémon GO, which is the cornerstone of your company's game system, requires a large number of spots due to its game system, national chain stores, drawing tiles, manhole covers, and billboards placed at each address are the targets of such spots.
There are some spots locally that have not gone away for the same reason and are in trouble.
Title of the Wayspot:すき家
location:https://intel.ingress.com/intel?ll=37.917829,140.13187&z=17&pll=37.917829,140.13187
But is that consistent with the philosophy "By participating you can help shape future adventures for yourself and others by mapping interesting locations across the globe"? Is it?
Is it an interesting adventure to see the same things just standing in a row?
No, it's just a game set up for the sake of the game.
If you want to focus on Pokémon GO, just put Wayfarer out of business and just put PokéStops and Gyms along the road.
Currently, there are competing games being released in Japan that are made that way.
Incidentally, the applicant for the first spot I mentioned has been punished many times, including for multiple accounts, if I remember correctly, and it shows no sign of stopping.
I have also heard that due to not suspending game accounts, applications can be made all they want, and review accounts are not punished beyond a 10 day suspension, which doesn't seem to be working at all.
If you want to fulfill the ideals set forth by your president, your management philosophy, and the philosophy of this community, I suggest that the criteria for removal should now be the same as the criteria for disapproval, and all applicable spots should be eliminated regardless of the time period in which they were approved.
In the meantime, this is a report of abuse, and I hope you will investigate the named wayspot.
I know it doesn't meet the criteria for deletion, though.
Comments
“Large shopping centers or ****-malls can be cultural hubs. Even outlet stores can be likened to a tourist destination - people flock hours away for weekend trips to these locations giving regions local recognition. However, as a collection they are an interesting place to visit or socialize with others. the plaza sign should be an adequate nomination.”
i think this would fall under that category. A cultural hub
I assume all of them are chain businesses/franchises? Well, I recognize only one of them (Sukiya, because the restaurants are also open in my country).
Unfortunately, they're another example of Schrödinger Wayspots—they may not meet acceptance criteria but also won't meet removal criteria (until they meet any removal criteria or property manager reported them, of course).
And such Wayspots might be annoying, many players (mostly GO Trainers) will assume these Schrödinger Wayspots are examples of Wayspots that meet Niantic's acceptance criteria and will continue nominating them if possible, as I've complained some times ago.
Similar situation with my bonus location. Generic businesses seem to be frequently approved there, from the large chain grocery stores to independent businesses that are generic and meet no criteria whatsoever (such as hardware stores and private medical clinics).
with Niantic adding random hardware stores via platforms like 4square, i would advise to just accept things as they are.
Again, I plead with Niantic for a removal reason like "has never met any eligibility criteria in the history of any game ever".
They all appear to be complaining about the same person's application.
I think this is just an attempt to attack an individual.
Don't bring personal wrangling to the community.
Hey @Markov2097-ING! We took another look at the Wayspots in question and decided that it does not meet our criteria for removal at this time. Thanks!
I can't give you much advice, but you should probably give him your opinion on your regular Pokémon GO account, not on your Level 2 Ingress account, which has been inactive for over a year.
@NianticLC
As has been discussed before, opinions from inactive low-level accounts should be shut down.
Such accounts only post to confuse rather than mature the discussion.
@NianticLC
Is this low quality, garbage itself, WAYSPOT, compatible with the future and philosophy you are striving for?
I believe it is not at all in line with your CEO John Hanke's and Niantic's philosophy at least not at all.
Make more sense why I wrote this thread earlier.
Keyword: Schrödinger Wayspots.
This kind of wayspot with only poor quality has been approved by Niantic's own review, and some Wayfinders are repeatedly nominated as if they are going for it.
You can often see this now on Twitter and elsewhere.
However, the first thing to say at this time is that the Wayfarer team should review the poor review quality of their own team.
It has always been the case that Niantic is not familiar with local suppliers and chain stores in countries around the world.
But there is a device in front of you that allows you to get information from all over the world.
It doesn't take more than 10 seconds to figure out what they are about after a little searching.
You should improve the quality of the reviewers in charge.
Even if it is outsourcing review to a part-time worker in a another country.
@tp235-ING
Please comment on the content. They are Schrödinger Wayspots and too concentrated on a particular individual candidate.
Not meeting any eligible criteria is not a reason to remove wayspot. I have to sorry for speak out the truth, reviewing and removal have different scale of criteria
It is useless to argue with instant accounts.
Normally, it shouldn't be approved, but for some reason, common objects and chain stores are approved.
I don't know if there are malicious judges or bots, but at least there are approving judges.
So once approved, you can't remove a spot, even if it's a chain, right?
I would like you to carefully examine the circumstances under which it was originally approved, which should have been inappropriate.
I think it would be better to consider ways to re-educate explorers who are low level and do not understand the standards.
Once you have created the fait accompli of being approved, these abusers will take advantage.
Please show the investigator once again that chain stores do not meet the criteria.
@tp235-ING
You have nothing else to say.
Such views make INGRESS more closed and ignore diversity. Closed and discriminatory communities are doomed to decline. Please be aware.
You assume the people reviewing over at Niantic can actually use Google 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Now that is a bet i'd never take.