Picnic tables
Gazzas89-PGO
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So, bit late to the party with this one, must have skipped over it. In the recent challenge thing, picnic tables were basically given the green light so to speak. By question is, is it just sets of tables in an area (so it looks obvious that it's a picnic area, rather than a table?) Or is it a table that's clearly been there for ages on its own that would also count? I can think of several times where there's a picnic table on its own thats obviously been there for ages in my area, but picnic areas don't really exist as much in my area.
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Also, what about ones that are in play parks? I've seen a couple of those, so would be interesting to know if they would be acceptable in their own or if they are instead part of the play pakr
The tables from the picture look pretty temporary to me. We could easily lift those and move them a couple of S2 cells away.
The grass under them is not even weathered tbh just a bit rained on.
Who knows though if they go up on the criteria pages as is go for it.
Well I’m going to have another go at a local picnic area on a long distance trail. It will be attempt number 3. Tables fixed to ground, a set area clearly visible on satellite view as it’s been there for years. But without a sign. Rejected a few weeks ago by Niantic 🙄 playing catch up on old submissions, but other times seasonal and generic business.
so being able to cross reference criteria might be helpful
I honestly wouldn’t bother submitting anything that’s clarified until the clarifications go on the main site.
This. I tried one for science. Table is bolted top the ground and located on 2 hiking trails along WW2 relics. I even supplied a link to the forum post but still got rejected for other, temporary, inappropriate🤔 and URL😖. People see a table and just instantly hit reject, if they do read further they see an url in supplemental and then hit reject, very frustrating.
Thanks for taking one for the team. I will mourn your upgrade.
I guess if they become eligible/acceptable it will take a while for it to filter through and start to show up in game.
It had been clarified before that picnic areas didn’t require a sign just a case to be eg is it demonstrably a picnic area.
I feel in the U.K. we lose out on this one because in many other places there are built shelters or BBQs - why we don’t have shelters given our weather is beyond me, but maybe we like soggy sandwich’s 😂
To be fair, that was me that helped ge that clarification, it was more that the amount of picnic tables, making it an obvious picnic area, so sign wasn't required. Picnic tables on their own though was the issue, cause one does not constitute a picnic area lol
For me, the real question is there needs to be something that implies the Picnic Table/area is permenant.
Like I got this one accepted on appeal
You can clearly see the tables and grills are installed in the ground.
However, the tables don't need to be if say the "Grills" are in a park. Or say its on a cement area in a park surrounded by green space that makes it obvious that's where that table belongs
What’s the difference if the criteria is on the website? An add translated version? These are still official info. The AMA April is not on the site at this moment and no one would consider those are non-grounded words.
fun fact, some community members hate the clarification from Global challenge so much that giving faulty information to influence people saying picnic table is still not being eligible.
@Gazzas89-PGO yes that was the previous clarification I was thinking about.
And I agree 1 table on its own without a defined space is not a distinct area for socialising.
I don’t have to wait for anything to be added as if I submit it it will take over 2 years to resolve so plenty time for rules to change again 😂 Appeals may be quicker but as these look to be taking in excess of 6 months maybe not.
There’s no requirement to check on/engage with the forums for Wayfarers.
If you want to review you don’t need to use them or ever look at them.
So everything that Niantic wants to be known should be on the main site. Not some tiny comment buried away in page 712 of a forum topic.
Good point on the April AMA though. @NianticTintino can this be added too when you add information from the recent Criteria Challenge?
Quite recently, this post appeared on the Wafarer Global Reviewers Facebook group:
Needless to say, there is now an influx of picnic table submissions being submitted throughout the entire region and are being widely accepted now. I've seen a couple of picnic tables in apartment complexes also approved too.
first of all have to appreciate the reviewers in NSW. Had been travelled there once and 98% the nomination were fairly reviewed.
so table in residential areas may be based on another paragraph from the Global challenge. They could be eligible if they have good story behind.
If only they'd used your picture instead of the janky, old, moveable tables in their pic :D
It think the core of the problem is the interpretation of the word "eligible". "Remember that eligibility doesn't equate to acceptance. The stories it tells matter too." From the picture you posted.
Niantic says "picnic tables are eligible", and many people interpret that as "picnic tables must be accepted". That's not true. Conversely, some people say "some picnic tables still aren't eligble", but they mean "picnic tables without a 'story' can still be rejected".
And then, yeah, there is a third category of people who don't like picnic tables and really do mean they shouldn't be eligible, but I think most people who say that are actually in category 2.
Good evening, i submitted this marker but it was refused even thought it is a picnic tune that is in a park and the table and bench are fixed. Picnic areas are well authorized ?
What were the rejection reasons?
Other rejection criteria and low quality photo
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Did you link to the clarification in your supporting? The low photo quality I would just ignore, that's people autorejecting
Thanks! From "Other Rejection Reason" I guess your local reviewers don't like picnic areas. You will need to use your supporting information to explain why it is "a great place to socialize/explore".