One thing you’d like to see more of and one thing you want to never see again?
PkmnTrainerJ-ING
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We are getting in to the final stretch of the year now when you tend to get “2022 in Review” kind of posts from businesses/games and such.
I assume the official folks here will do their own, but wanted to know from the community, what’s;
- One thing that you want Wayfarer to do more of? (Challenges, Twitter contests etc.)
- One thing you want to see banished and never done again? (Twitter contests, challenges etc.)
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More of Russia/India challenges, less of Twitter contests or Brazil challenge.
Actually any challenge that doesn’t depend on luck, rather on hard work.
One thing that you want Wayfarer to do more of?
Encourage more people to review.
One thing you want to see banished and never done again?
Lack of communication and updating the community.
Whether that's leaving the photosphere bug in the review process if it is one or maybe even resetting someone's account and then ignoring them....
One thing that you want Wayfarer to do more of?
Presence at live events - it was great to talk about Wayfarer stuff at GoFest! I'd love to see more live events generally.
One thing you want to see banished and never done again?
Nebulous "well in some circumstances a generic whatsis may be acceptable" type statements that lead to a veritable coal bin of subpar submissions "because Niantic says they're eligible".
More challenges, where the challenge is to actually review.
I agree 100%, in the survey they sent I wrote that the my main issue is communication.
I was thinking up a serious response to this thread, but it feels like it'd just be echoing things said in past threads, but then my next thought was "hold on a second, is next year gonna be a re-run of this year?"
Next year - something roadmap for like 4 months... fire Tino, then forget everything else and don't talk about anything for the next 8 months?
Oh no! Run @NianticTintino-ING , @Belahzur-ING is after your job!
But in all seriousness.
What I want to see more of: Reviewing events (actual reviewing events, not exposing portals on Twitter, India/Russia etc), incentives to review, double Recon credit week, regular roadmap updates, development timelines.
What I want to see less of: Basically everything that happened this year - bug handling (or lack of, hello appeals backlog), upgrade update that wasn't tested/didn't work, firing major staff, emails that lie to you (edit contributions when?) no development, roadmap thrown in the trash, stupid Twitter stuff.
Recon? Can’t see that on my Pokémon GO badges. You must mean Wayfarer.
What I'd like to see more
Active participation in discussions from naintic, specifically in criteria stuff and nor just copy and pasted replies
What I'd like less of/seen gone
Bugs from niantic in general ....
More - Proper feedback to reviewers
Less - Delays across the whole process.
Also, what I'd give to be a fly on the wall for Niantics "year in review"...
Actually, on second thought, what I'd like to see less of is hijacked threads being summarily closed with the "due to the nature of this discussion we're shutting it all down" drivel instead of simply removing the troll responses to let the discussion continue on-topic, or answering the initial question or issue posed by the OP.
More: actual beta testers and QA departments
Less: players being used as beta testers
To be clear, having Wayspots imported from 3rd party sources without quality control and then relies on players's reports to take down "unqualified" (read: meet removal criteria) imported Wayspots is..., super annoying.
I don't recall being asked to report imported 3rd party wayspots.
More: Clarity/guidance during the workflows for both submitters and reviewers.
Never want to see again: A fake wayspot.
(Bonus: I want to see the language revert to submission, and never want to see nomination again... but that's my personal quirk.)
I want to see more of the updates finally happen, such as the edit contributions page. I want to see a better system for waypoint removals and not click on A, B, or C.
I don't want Niantic to keep breaking their promises. I don't want to see submissions stuck in queue for years.
Oh, decided another thing I'd like to see, if you used an upgrade and it was rejected, but then you get it accepted on appeal, you should get your upgrade back.
I wonder why people disagreed with it, I feel it would be helpful to almost everyone, unless you don't want it for reasons.
Yeah, weird people are disagreeing with something that's beneficial. Like, surely it's happened to us all where we feel we've used an upgrade that should have been a decent pass, only to fail, then on appeal (or repeat submission) it passed. At least if niantic accepts it on appeal then they are saying the upgraded nomination should have passed and therefore your upgrade should be given back
@CarolFig1607-PGO I'd be happy to elaborate on why I disagreed.
One upgrade entitles the user to one expedited review, not to an outcome. The expedited review already happened. Also, given the huge mismatch between reviewer capacity and submission capacity I think it's a bad idea to do anything that makes people want to review less.
So if you use an upgrade, it's rejected and then approved after appeal then you get the upgrade back.
But if you use an upgrade and it's accepted then you don't get the upgrade back.
So it would be better to have the upgrades rejected so you can reuse them after appeal? I'm scratching my head trying to make sense out of this, it seems that there's something wrong with that logic.
If you use an upgrade then it's used, otherwise your nomination would sit in the queue for months of years and what happens after that it's another matter and shouldn't give you back an upgrade.
Because most people use upgrades on things that should pass, if its then unfairly rejected, you've put in all the work to get an upgrade only to have it unfairly rejected. So yeah, if you then wait and the appeal says "no, it shouldn't have been rejected, we accept it" after waiting the few months it takes, its only fair yiu get given back the thing that was unfairly lost
If the email didn't say that appeals would be processed in the order received... maybe an upgraded nomination could jump line again in the appeals.
Open the African continent and other low-density areas to reviewers worldwide. (If Niantic trusts foursquare data over reviewrs and nominators, I don't blame them.)
Also, that they see the actual abused WAYSPOT sites on the ground, not through street view.
To nominate POIs that they themselves think are good from their own Ingress and PGO accounts.
I would ask for these things.
What is currently missing from the Niantic staff is a real world experience through Niantic games.
Most of them have joined Niantic in the last few years. I can easily imagine that some of them have never even touched a Niantic game. (So they don't even know what a bug is, and that causes trouble)
I don't think I can understand Wayfarer with less than 100 review experiences or a few nominations, and I don't think I can understand Ingress and PokemonGO with just 10 or so portals or Pokéstops touched or 100 Pokémon caught or control fields generated.