Hi everyone! I want to clarify about my nominations.
I work on the territory of a very large metallurgical plant. Historically and culturally, it so happened that numerous monuments and steles were erected on the territory of industrial enterprises with more than 100 years of history in eastern Europe. This is a tradition, these objects carry historical and cultural significance for the city and workers of these enterprises.
Several of those nominations were added by me and my friends who work at the factory.
Subsequently, these objects were repeatedly removed without explanation from Niantic. Other players are deleting these wayspots may have their own understandable reasons as they do not have access to these wayspots.
Here are a few nominations:
1. Стела Аглофабрика
Installed at the entrance to the sinter plant in 2018.
2. Стела ИОЦ
Installed in the green zone near the entrance to the lime-kiln workshop. It is made in the form of a tower crane of two intersecting beams.
3. Памятник в честь 50-летия Аглофабрики
Made of sintering trolley, installed in 2016.
According to the AMA, these objects have the right to be in the game:
"AMA4Q24 – portals on commercial property are allowed, "If a hundred people have access but only one is an Ingress player... well... that's an entirely different situation".
AMA22Q1 – portals on corporate property are allowed because restricted access is not the same as private residential access. The people that can access portals on corporate grounds are doing so legally as they have access to the location.
AMA26Q14 – the rule is that they're disallowed on private residential property, private corporate property is not part of that rule. Only personal property where one family has control."
According to this appeal
One of the objects was deleted for the reason "I do not have access, help to delete this"
In this regard, I have several questions:
1. Does this mean that the AMA are not true?
2. Perhaps these nominations do not meet the criteria? Then which ones do not exactly match? Personally, I don’t see any problems here culturally or historically. Does the monument in honor of the 50th anniversary of the launch of the sinter plant not carry historical significance? Or what is the difference between the stele “Аглофабрика” and other steles (We have installed a wayspot near every stele at the entrance to any city)? Here is an example of a stele of the plant itself, located near the central checkpoints:
These facilities have pedestrian access, this is not emergency service, as it’s located on the street and not in the industrial zone itself, you can see the green zone or the pedestrian stairs next to these objects.
We have already applied an appeal against the deletion of these wayspots and they were rejected.
I don't know enough about your local culture to comment on the eligibility of these specifically. But you are right that POIs are allowed 8n commercial spaces even when non employees don't have access.
I will say, sometimes browsing through the appeal forums here, there have been numerous instances where I feel like the decision by Niantic was contradictory to previous statements made by them. Sometimes I accept that I may not know/understand the details, but in a few cases I have been genuinely baffled by their decisions.
Honestly, it's just your luck on how the niantic employees looking ag the removal things feel at the time, both the removal and the appeal, I've seen things to oved for no reason, then the appeal accepts that they shouldnt have been removed and outs them back, I've seen things removed, a list if evidence for why it fhoukdnt have been, yet the appeal fails, I've seen removals get rejected and accepted in appeal and I've seen the worst, removals rejected and then fail at appeal... despite them being on school grounds