Not clear on denial
Skulbood-PGO Posts: 2 ✭✭
This is super frustrating, this process is not user friendly at all. I would HIGHLY suggest that when something is denied, it can definitely be explained better. Just saying "duplicate" doesn't help new people. It would be nice if a link to the so called duplicate was provided. I personally submitted 2, that looked alike but were 2 totally different pictures and completely different zones.
I would HIGHLY HIGHLY HIGHLY suggest you fix this, this isn't fun...AT ALL.
I now see why a lot parks near me have extraordinarily low amounts of stops.
Niantic is developing a new app that shows all Wayspots, regardless of if they show up in each various game. Providing a link for rejected Duplicates to the existing Wayspot would certainly be helpful if they choose to implement that...
Not all Wayspots appear in Pokémon GO. PoGO uses a density algorithm following a grid pattern to prevent the game map from becoming too crowded. Unfortunately, this grid is not intuitive, is not admitted to exist by Niantic, and is nondiscriminating between populous areas and hyper rural settings that can end up a severe detriment to isolated areas.
When you make a nomination in PoGO, if you are on the spot you have an option to turn on nearby Wayspots which allows you to see the Wayspots that are not used in PoGO. Unfortunately, this can't be seen remotely from that screen if you are nominating from home.
Wow, this is probably the most eloquent response I have ever read in my life. I certainly hope more provide responses like this! This totally makes sense, I'll have to look at that tomorrow. I was making my nominations while standing at the spot, using PoGO. I'll have to see how to get that turned on.
Also really really tough to look up waystops (at home at least), maybe I just new....but how can I review something and verify there is a duplicate? Or at least I haven't figured it out....keeps pushing me to review, but not sure I should be reviewing if I can't see what's already there. Terrible system, I mean I don't know how to make all this...but I've done similar work and never been this pigeon holed.
I'm glad you read it 😅 I didn't want to end up tl;dr.
The Wayfarer website itself won't let you look for nearby duplicates for your own nominations. The only viewable full & accurate map is through the Wayfarer app, which is currently intended to only be for beta & dev users, although it is available on Apple Testflight(?) and the Google Play Store. Ingress, the flagship Niantic game, uses most Wayspots as Portals and a level 1 account can use the Intel.Ingress.com website to view the Portal network worldwide. If going down the rabbit hole of extra apps doesn't interest you, feel free to share some locations here and fellow users will look them up for you.
My screenshots below might not be super helpful since I'm not around any Wayspots at the moment.
This is the toggle that you need to turn ON (shown "on" in my screenshot).
PokéStops & Gyms will appear with the blue marker shown. If a Wayspot is used in other games but NOT Pokémon GO, it will appear with an "!" icon. You can tap on the icons for more information.
@Skulbood-PGO you are 100% correct. Wayfarer is super-frustrating, user-unfriendly, unhelpful, and generally discouraging, especially to a first-time user who does not know what to expect.
That said, it’s not unlearnable. It takes patience, persistence, and requires an understanding of tools and information that are not readily available to the average PoGo trainer (in fact, some are withheld by Niantic). This forum and the regulars here proved a very good resource for me when I started, and I recommend reading around, especially in the Nomination Improvement and Criteria Clarifications forums. Lots of tips, insights, and thoughtful feedback that a curious reader can learn from.
@Skulbood-PGO Hello and Welcome
As you play Go you will be aware that Niantic and good communication just don’t go together.
And this is the case for wayfarer.
Luckily this forum has plenty players who will help, so do ask.
If you haven’t already done so then Google - S2 and Pokémon Go
Pokemongohub has a very accessible page about this.
Reddit NianticWayfarer under the about tab has a list of resources to.
Lots of “homework” to do.
But…..once you have a better insight and get places added to the game board it is very satisfying.
Also really really tough to look up waystops (at home at least), maybe I just new....but how can I review something and verify there is a duplicate? Or at least I haven't figured it out....keeps pushing me to review, but not sure I should be reviewing if I can't see what's already there.
@Skulbood-PGO I think you're pondering reviewing other people's nominations on https://wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/ Rest assured, when you're reviewing a nomination, you will get a map with all other wayspots, and instructions to check for duplicates.