How is this a temporary display?
Kaylee0712-PGO
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I just had a permanent mural rejected for “temporary display” and “low quality photo.” I don’t understand how this could be considered temporary or seasonal? Are reviewers seeing something in this nomination that I don’t?
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I think the photo quality looks ok.
I think that some may believe this is temporary as sometimes bright murals in big centres don’t last long…..not saying that is what is the case here but it’s what some may believe from their experience.
Is it easy to see on streetview? It looks indoors. Is there something that shows this spot? I can see proving it’s there being difficult.
It is indoors, likely not visible from street view, but I also noted that in the comments. I figure if that was the issue, I would see a rejection based on location inaccuracies
Did you log out and in or refresh the page….that sometimes brings up more criteria
Refreshing it brought up the same two rejection notes, just switched so low quality photo was first.
I think the low quality photo was probably because you only took a picture of a small section of the larger wall. It cut off quite a bit of the “mural”.
Regarding the temporary nature of the display, this appears to be the type of enclosure that malls put in front of stores that have closed until a new tenant moves in. That by definition would be temporary. I went to the malls website and saw that there are several vacant units which adds evidence that the wall is indeed temporary until the mall find a new tenant that might be what the reviewer saw.
Actually, after looking at your supporting photo in more detail, this is totally one of those temporary display walls with a generic message covering a closed store while it’s being renovated. Reviewers were spot on.
Hi @Kaylee0712-PGO ,
It is possible that reviewers perceived this mural as graffiti, which is to be rejected as 'temporary' because it has a high chance to be overpainted. This was usually only true for graffiti tags, names and just random scribbles on walls, but maybe these reviewers saw it, thought of graffiti and thought they had to reject it according to that guideline. Those reject reasons are in my opinion false. Photo's fine, and there shouldn't be any reason to think that a commercial painting like that one is temporary.
This nomination suffers from a few of 'curses'. There's the 'indoors curse', where a nomination indoors is always a bit more difficult to get accepted (due to location visibility or misinterpretation of guidelines). And there's the 'generic business' curse, where there could be reviewers who didn't keep up with current guidelines and still think all businesses are an automatic reject.
Note the reasons and mention them in the supporting statement for the next try (without actually telling reviewers what to vote, mind you) or appeal it (could take some time though).
There are a number of those temporary wraps at this mall, but this mural is not one of them. It’s legitimately painted on. You can even see doors in the supporting photo painted the same background color to match.
Sounds like this may have just been a false rejection then? I haven't had any luck getting things through appeals so I guess this may have to be a resubmit
You have to weigh up how long a nomination goes through without upgrade ……upgrading might not help with this case. Maybe find some good links to it being permanent.
Appeals are generally taking awhile and could you provide information in the appeal to counteract the rejections?
it really depends which route you want to go
Is that the artist's signature on the bottom right corner?
In the “surrounding area” photo? I’m honestly not sure. Does that make a difference?
It helps a lot of you can put a name to an individual work and what style of art they do, when they created it etc
I think it's by GFB3
Apart from crediting the artist should be the norm, having a name attached to the POI gets some creds that it is hand-painted rather than generic wrap/temporary.
It's also a small thanks to creatives who made the potential wayspot so please do so.
It still looks exactly like a temporary wall, the way the display sits out in front of the concrete/brick wall behind it. If it is not, then you are likely going to need to show it from an angle where you can see the hall its in and how it doesn't sit in front of the real wall.
Looks ok.. just resubmit. Hopefully, you get better reviewers, if you submitted locally, try doing more Wayfarer review and get an Upgrade. Adding the upgrade will push it to a wider audience and not within your local reviewers.
@RyskyHawaii-PGO this was upgraded so that has been tried.
Having an upgraded nomination rejected always feels worse as you have put in that extra effort.
Thanks for the information and suggestions yall! I’ve put in an appeal but will likely also resubmit — whichever goes through faster. I checked the GFB3 link above and that’s definitely the same mural, i included the link to it in my appeal. Will update if/when I hear anything (in the next 5-7 business years)