i do not know the details of this strike but assume is connected to increased prices. Since that happened a few weeks back it seems odd that upgrades would be affected now. I’ll have to take your word for it.
I suspect that the strike/or player disengagement is very variable in its effects. For example all the people I know that have reacted to the changes were never involved in wayfarer. but I’m sure it’s different in other places.
It is a question that crops up here fairly regularly and usually it’s about people nominating and applying the upgrade straightaway and it not instantly going into voting. That is the normal pattern. And I am sure that underneath it all the upgrade system is continuing to function.
My gut instinct is that there are too many instances that have happened suddenly and where the wayspot had been in the system for awhile. This stands out as unusual and in my view warrants a close look. And that is what Ambassadors will asking for.
I see giving a focussed voice for issues the community are raising as one of the roles Ambassadors can do.
There are only 3-5 people in my city who nominate/review anything, of which I am the most active. The others are single cases that do not review the nominations for the upgrade, and it has always been so.
Ingress players don't nominate anything except one who also plays Pogo.
Also, me and members of the 'local' group regularly upgrade our nominations every 2 weeks and in my case all nominations were submitted on May 6th, upgraded on 9th and are still in the queue today.
Submissions from other members were also from February, March, April.
We also have a friend who lives about 200 km from us and usually does not need an upgrade. His May 6 nomination was accepted without an upgrade on May 11 and another one from May 7 to May 12.
I would just like to add the my husband’s nomination from earlier in the thread was nominated on April 7, upgraded in May 11, and is still “in voting.” This doesn’t have to do with the grace period - something is wrong.
Tried with another nomination this time in an incredibly slow turnaround time area and same issue. Definitely something has changed. Not happy as upgrades are the only way to get the majority of my local nominations through otherwise I wait over a year
I'm not sure there is an actual strike more just a general lack of interest when combined with the remote price increase, lack of communication, continual release of untested updated, events not functioning correctly, bugs on top of bugs on top of bugs etc.
As someone who doesn't raid much or chase shiny/complete dex it mostly doesn't effect me but I've definitely seen a drop off in players and player interest from 'casual' to the very hardcore grinders.
Yeah nothing changed for mine either @KatiRoseS-PGO. I have even had other submissions accepted in the meantime that were not upgraded, and others move into voting. They are not exactly the same location but I don't know how Niantic break down areas as far as that goes. Is it a particular S2 Cell system?
Another 2 upgraded that went into voting over 17hours ago that are still stuck in voting. What's the point of upgrades if they are not going to push things through? I would like my upgrades returned to me please. I have four others upgraded in queue I am assuming will get stuck in voting too?
I just tried one more since I finally earned my own upgrade - will report back soon. If this one gets stuck too I'm done til it's officially fixed. Strangely, like 4 random nominations from 6+ months ago were resolved this weekend with no upgrade.
Those 2 I reported are still stuck in voting(23hrs) and now another two have joined them for over 5 hours now. Usually takes 1.5, 2.5 hours tops in my area after in voting and upgraded. I feel like we are owed our upgrades back. Totally burning them for nothing and totally unavoidable since I upgraded these prior to knowing about the bug. 2 more will be joining these and will most likely be stuck like the others. That is 6 upgrades used for nothing.
Thanks for asking. The only update is that it went from us monitoring the issue to our team fully investigating the issue. While some were false alarms, many were showing irregular behavior. We hope to have a fix soon.
only if you have this tool installed. As you can see this one has been in voting upgraded over 24hrs and it actually took it half a day to hit voting after upgrading it. Something major messed up.
Happening to me too. I have two stuck in voting, upgraded for a lengthy time. Any help getting these resolved would be most appreciated. Rural player here and upgrades are the only way we get most things through expeditiously.
1953 Cornerstone -- Nominated May 1, 2023 (Upgraded May 2, 2023)
Coordinates: (42828850 , -102996435)
Western Art Iron Balcony Railing -- Nominated May 10, 2023 (Upgraded May 12, 2023 -- I think. It was definitely days ago.)
Yes. If you have a 65% agreement rate, you need to do 153 reviews to earn 100 agreements and an upgrade. If you speed through reviews at one minute a piece, that's over 2.5 hours. Plus the time you took to make the nomination you want upgraded.
It might be that upgrades are doing absolutely nothing and that is the problem here. Wayfarer says it's upgraded but that is not reflected in the voting patterns. Definitely a bug.
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i do not know the details of this strike but assume is connected to increased prices. Since that happened a few weeks back it seems odd that upgrades would be affected now. I’ll have to take your word for it.
Any updates on this issue?
There is an upcoming Spain challenge, and it wouldn't be nice if most of the Spanish nominations were stuck.
I suspect that the strike/or player disengagement is very variable in its effects. For example all the people I know that have reacted to the changes were never involved in wayfarer. but I’m sure it’s different in other places.
It is a question that crops up here fairly regularly and usually it’s about people nominating and applying the upgrade straightaway and it not instantly going into voting. That is the normal pattern. And I am sure that underneath it all the upgrade system is continuing to function.
My gut instinct is that there are too many instances that have happened suddenly and where the wayspot had been in the system for awhile. This stands out as unusual and in my view warrants a close look. And that is what Ambassadors will asking for.
I see giving a focussed voice for issues the community are raising as one of the roles Ambassadors can do.
There are only 3-5 people in my city who nominate/review anything, of which I am the most active. The others are single cases that do not review the nominations for the upgrade, and it has always been so.
Ingress players don't nominate anything except one who also plays Pogo.
Also, me and members of the 'local' group regularly upgrade our nominations every 2 weeks and in my case all nominations were submitted on May 6th, upgraded on 9th and are still in the queue today.
Submissions from other members were also from February, March, April.
We also have a friend who lives about 200 km from us and usually does not need an upgrade. His May 6 nomination was accepted without an upgrade on May 11 and another one from May 7 to May 12.
I would just like to add the my husband’s nomination from earlier in the thread was nominated on April 7, upgraded in May 11, and is still “in voting.” This doesn’t have to do with the grace period - something is wrong.
Thanks for update @KatiRoseS-PGO
Tried with another nomination this time in an incredibly slow turnaround time area and same issue. Definitely something has changed. Not happy as upgrades are the only way to get the majority of my local nominations through otherwise I wait over a year
I'm not sure there is an actual strike more just a general lack of interest when combined with the remote price increase, lack of communication, continual release of untested updated, events not functioning correctly, bugs on top of bugs on top of bugs etc.
As someone who doesn't raid much or chase shiny/complete dex it mostly doesn't effect me but I've definitely seen a drop off in players and player interest from 'casual' to the very hardcore grinders.
I'm pretty sure there will be a downturn in profits over the next 6-12 months for Niantic when looked at on a longer time scale.
That will eventually effect Wayfarer and the system which is already understaffed I believe.
Yeah nothing changed for mine either @KatiRoseS-PGO. I have even had other submissions accepted in the meantime that were not upgraded, and others move into voting. They are not exactly the same location but I don't know how Niantic break down areas as far as that goes. Is it a particular S2 Cell system?
Another 2 upgraded that went into voting over 17hours ago that are still stuck in voting. What's the point of upgrades if they are not going to push things through? I would like my upgrades returned to me please. I have four others upgraded in queue I am assuming will get stuck in voting too?
I just tried one more since I finally earned my own upgrade - will report back soon. If this one gets stuck too I'm done til it's officially fixed. Strangely, like 4 random nominations from 6+ months ago were resolved this weekend with no upgrade.
I have one upgrade now and I will not use it until this is fixed. Not voting either until the challenge starts.
Those 2 I reported are still stuck in voting(23hrs) and now another two have joined them for over 5 hours now. Usually takes 1.5, 2.5 hours tops in my area after in voting and upgraded. I feel like we are owed our upgrades back. Totally burning them for nothing and totally unavoidable since I upgraded these prior to knowing about the bug. 2 more will be joining these and will most likely be stuck like the others. That is 6 upgrades used for nothing.
Hello @ZeroTheWrath-PGO,
Thanks for asking. The only update is that it went from us monitoring the issue to our team fully investigating the issue. While some were false alarms, many were showing irregular behavior. We hope to have a fix soon.
Is there a way to tell when I upgraded my nomination?
Naw, that ain't it chief. Niantic screwed up sent 3/4 of noms to themselves. Then "fixed it" by screwing up the entire system. Check the dates.
I don’t think so unless it’s something that one of the tools covers ( I don’t have them so don’t know)
only if you have this tool installed. As you can see this one has been in voting upgraded over 24hrs and it actually took it half a day to hit voting after upgrading it. Something major messed up.
Mine has been in voting/upgraded for well over 5 days
Happening to me too. I have two stuck in voting, upgraded for a lengthy time. Any help getting these resolved would be most appreciated. Rural player here and upgrades are the only way we get most things through expeditiously.
1953 Cornerstone -- Nominated May 1, 2023 (Upgraded May 2, 2023)
Coordinates: (42828850 , -102996435)
Western Art Iron Balcony Railing -- Nominated May 10, 2023 (Upgraded May 12, 2023 -- I think. It was definitely days ago.)
Coordinates ((42831128 , -102999349)
Hard agree. It's super frustrating to feel like an upgrade was wasted. They're hard to come by.
Yes. If you have a 65% agreement rate, you need to do 153 reviews to earn 100 agreements and an upgrade. If you speed through reviews at one minute a piece, that's over 2.5 hours. Plus the time you took to make the nomination you want upgraded.
It might be that upgrades are doing absolutely nothing and that is the problem here. Wayfarer says it's upgraded but that is not reflected in the voting patterns. Definitely a bug.
My upgrade still "in voting" after like two weeks... but my longest appeal (August 10th 2022) got finally resolved (and accepted). So... it's a win?
So is it still a problem and I should not upgrade anything at the moment?
I’m not applying my upgrade until there has been an update from @Nianthib or @NianticTintino-ING
Well, it didn't work. Upgraded yesterday and is still in voting, when typically my upgrades resolve in under 3 hours.
Name: Cat Lady Cafe
Nominated: May 7, 2023
Upgraded: May 16, 2023
Location: 401 E Colfax Ave, South Bend, IN 46617, USA
Please, please fix this. Especially before the Spain challenge!
Sad face! I was about to try myself but you have put me off now. Oh well, I will bank it until something changes.
Same problem here. Not just me, but other players in Brazil.