While your accepted nomination is guaranteed to show up in our database, all other Niantic products (such as Pokémon GO, Ingress, etc..) choose which and how to include accepted Wayspots from the database.
Check out gohub for PoGO inclusion rules, specific game rules are outside the Wayfarer process.
I understand that this will all sound very confusing. Niantic has not communicated the process well.
Although the impression you are given when you submit something is that you are submitting to be a pokestop the reality is that you are submitting something with the potential to be a pokestop.
Once your nomination is approved, it is a wayspot in the Lightship database - this holds all approved wayspots and is separate from all Niantic games.
That is the end point of wayfarer, and what happens next is not related to wayfarer.
Each game sets its own rules as to what it will take from the database to use in that particular game.
For Pokémon Go the rules revolve around the use of some mapping software commonly referred to as S2 cells.
It is likely that it hasn’t been accepted by Pokémon Go.
Hola @ELTURCO1986-PGO te lo voy a explicar en español para que sea un poco más claro, los juegos de Niantic tienen diferentes reglas a la hora de ser aceptados, como te explicaban en los comentarios anteriores lo ideal es que busques sobre las celdas S2 en google, ese artículo que te compartieron tiene la mejor explicación sobre ese tema. Ten en cuenta que a la hora de nominar no es solo tomar la foto y poner la ubicación del objeto, ahí es donde entran las celdas. Por último por qué no publicas screenshots y la ubicación de tu propuesta para echarle un ojo.
@Elijustrying-ING Bahar, 2949. Sk. No:9, 35110 Karabağlar/İzmir, Türkiye
That's the way the location is. Candidate accepted by the community.
It was not added to the Pokemon go game, but it was added to other niantic games.
This is ridiculous. I play PoGO... other games do not interest me. I have made a great effort to reach level 37 and nominate but my candidate does not appear in the PoGO game.
@Elijustrying-ING I sent a lot of e-mails. I wrote from many places, but no one was interested. This is ridiculous. I'm playing PoGO. If you accept my nomination, it needs to be added to my vote. Other games don't interest me. Niantic doesn't pay much attention to the community. I haven't received an answer to my questions for 2 days. For this reason, I am very bored with the game.
@ELTURCO1986-PGO as has been mentioned by @Elijustrying-ING although the entire in game nomination process in pokemon go talks about nominating a pokestop, you are in fact nominating a wayspot and there is a important distinction between the two.
When you nominate a point of interest you aren't nominating it for any one particular game but for Niantic's Lightship database. If approved it gets added to that database, which is used by all of Niantic's games. Each game then has their own rules about what wayspots from the common Lightship database they will use and how they are treated.
@ELTURCO1986-PGO this happened to many of us when we first started. You’ve got to learn about the cell system in order to avoid this frustration in the future.
You don't. If it's in a level 17 S2 cell that already contains a Pokéstop or Gym, then it's unable to appear in Pokémon Go. That's the proximity rule that Pokémon Go uses.
If the existing Pokéstop or Gym that's in that level 17 S2 cell is deleted for whatever reason, then yours would appear and replace it, but otherwise you just have to accept that your nomination is not going to be used in Pokémon Go, and now that you know about the proximity rules, you can make more informed decisions when it comes to what you submit if you only care about adding to the Pokémon Go map.
I do think that is a bit of a selfish view though, considering most of the Pokéstops and Gyms we use in Pokémon Go actually weren't submitted by people who play Pokémon Go, and instead came mostly from Ingress players. Sometimes it's nice to help people who play a different game. Sometimes it's nice to just submit things to the database because they're really cool, regardless of whether they'd end up showing up in game.
As said by others, though Pokémon GO tells you you're submitting a new PokéStop and Ingress tells you you're submitting a new Portal, you are submitting to the database and your nomination may appear as per those games inclusion rules.
As @HankWolfman-PGO says, all the original PokéStops (barring HMDB import) were submitted by Ingress players, so it's more helpful to view it as helping out other gamers, even if you don't play that game. Ingress Agents didn't kick off (to my knowledge) about their nominations being used in Pokémon GO.
Similarly, you might see this submission in upcoming titles like Marvel World of Heroes.
As @HankWolfman-PGO says, all the original PokéStops (barring HMDB import) were submitted by Ingress players, so it's more helpful to view it as helping out other gamers, even if you don't play that game. Ingress Agents didn't kick off (to my knowledge) about their nominations being used in Pokémon GO.
There were also scraps from Google Maps that included post offices, fire departments, public libraries, and other public points of interest. That is why my area was full of duplicate post offices and one fire department had three Portals scattered across a 2-mile stretch of town (because Google Map data was very dirty back then). I still haven't cleaned up everything because the remaining "blanks" are in an area with no cell service, even with the huge booster that I have.
Oh yes. Brian did mention that in an interview he did about Ingress.
For context for others:
Also, at the time Google had a photo service called Panoramio, which was basically a geotagged Flickr for putting user-generated pictures onto Google Maps. We would pull data from there for photos tagged "sculpture," "mural," "water fountain," or other artistic places. These were interesting places to look at in a neighborhood, but they were also, by nature of being public, likely safe places for people to come and gather.
@ELTURCO1986-PGO Sorry, I have found the mural I think you submitted. There are a lot of reasons why that should not have made it through the approval process. But not even touching those issues, this is in the same cell as the POI called Tombstone so it won't ever show up in the game. It looks like it is too close to that to show up in Ingress as well.
@ELTURCO1986-PGO After just a few more minutes of digging, it became obvious to a few of us that you submitted a BLATANTLY FAKE wayspot. The mural that you have the nerve to come on here and complain about being "missing" from Pokemon GO DOES NOT EXIST WHERE YOU CLAIM IT DOES. To the best of our Googling skills, we determined that this mural is located in France. You took this photo from the internet and lied about this existing in Turkey.
Who should WE contact about getting it removed? Don't worry, we know who.
Fake nominations like this are a huge part of the reason the Wayfarer process is slow and difficult. If people would not lie about their submissions, we could make it all work so much better and faster.
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Have you read this?
Hello and welcome @ELTURCO1986-PGO
First please go to this post….
https://community.wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/discussion/41750/my-wayspot-nomination-was-accepted-but-does-not-appear-in-my-game-s-where-did-it-go#latest
It explains a little about the general situation regarding nominations from the game.
The likelihood is that it hasn’t met the selection criteria set by Pokémon Go. I appreciate this will be very disappointing news.
If you provide the location we can check and provide a full explanation but this is the very likely outcome.
How so? I play Pokemon go and I am nominated for this game. My candidate is accepted, but will it not appear in the pokemon go game?
From the linked thread:
While your accepted nomination is guaranteed to show up in our database, all other Niantic products (such as Pokémon GO, Ingress, etc..) choose which and how to include accepted Wayspots from the database.Check out gohub for PoGO inclusion rules, specific game rules are outside the Wayfarer process.
I understand that this will all sound very confusing. Niantic has not communicated the process well.
Although the impression you are given when you submit something is that you are submitting to be a pokestop the reality is that you are submitting something with the potential to be a pokestop.
Once your nomination is approved, it is a wayspot in the Lightship database - this holds all approved wayspots and is separate from all Niantic games.
That is the end point of wayfarer, and what happens next is not related to wayfarer.
Each game sets its own rules as to what it will take from the database to use in that particular game.
For Pokémon Go the rules revolve around the use of some mapping software commonly referred to as S2 cells.
It is likely that it hasn’t been accepted by Pokémon Go.
if you give the location details we will check.
Perhaps someone needs to create a flowchart on how all of this works.
Hola @ELTURCO1986-PGO te lo voy a explicar en español para que sea un poco más claro, los juegos de Niantic tienen diferentes reglas a la hora de ser aceptados, como te explicaban en los comentarios anteriores lo ideal es que busques sobre las celdas S2 en google, ese artículo que te compartieron tiene la mejor explicación sobre ese tema. Ten en cuenta que a la hora de nominar no es solo tomar la foto y poner la ubicación del objeto, ahí es donde entran las celdas. Por último por qué no publicas screenshots y la ubicación de tu propuesta para echarle un ojo.
@Elijustrying-ING Bahar, 2949. Sk. No:9, 35110 Karabağlar/İzmir, Türkiye
That's the way the location is. Candidate accepted by the community.
It was not added to the Pokemon go game, but it was added to other niantic games.
This is ridiculous. I play PoGO... other games do not interest me. I have made a great effort to reach level 37 and nominate but my candidate does not appear in the PoGO game.
@Elijustrying-ING I sent a lot of e-mails. I wrote from many places, but no one was interested. This is ridiculous. I'm playing PoGO. If you accept my nomination, it needs to be added to my vote. Other games don't interest me. Niantic doesn't pay much attention to the community. I haven't received an answer to my questions for 2 days. For this reason, I am very bored with the game.
@ELTURCO1986-PGO as has been mentioned by @Elijustrying-ING although the entire in game nomination process in pokemon go talks about nominating a pokestop, you are in fact nominating a wayspot and there is a important distinction between the two.
When you nominate a point of interest you aren't nominating it for any one particular game but for Niantic's Lightship database. If approved it gets added to that database, which is used by all of Niantic's games. Each game then has their own rules about what wayspots from the common Lightship database they will use and how they are treated.
@Hikaru588-ING What can I do to make the candidate appear in the PoGO game? It's been 3 days. After all, I am a PoGO player.
@ELTURCO1986-PGO this happened to many of us when we first started. You’ve got to learn about the cell system in order to avoid this frustration in the future.
You don't. If it's in a level 17 S2 cell that already contains a Pokéstop or Gym, then it's unable to appear in Pokémon Go. That's the proximity rule that Pokémon Go uses.
If the existing Pokéstop or Gym that's in that level 17 S2 cell is deleted for whatever reason, then yours would appear and replace it, but otherwise you just have to accept that your nomination is not going to be used in Pokémon Go, and now that you know about the proximity rules, you can make more informed decisions when it comes to what you submit if you only care about adding to the Pokémon Go map.
I do think that is a bit of a selfish view though, considering most of the Pokéstops and Gyms we use in Pokémon Go actually weren't submitted by people who play Pokémon Go, and instead came mostly from Ingress players. Sometimes it's nice to help people who play a different game. Sometimes it's nice to just submit things to the database because they're really cool, regardless of whether they'd end up showing up in game.
That's the neat part. You can't.
As said by others, though Pokémon GO tells you you're submitting a new PokéStop and Ingress tells you you're submitting a new Portal, you are submitting to the database and your nomination may appear as per those games inclusion rules.
As @HankWolfman-PGO says, all the original PokéStops (barring HMDB import) were submitted by Ingress players, so it's more helpful to view it as helping out other gamers, even if you don't play that game. Ingress Agents didn't kick off (to my knowledge) about their nominations being used in Pokémon GO.
Similarly, you might see this submission in upcoming titles like Marvel World of Heroes.
As @HankWolfman-PGO says, all the original PokéStops (barring HMDB import) were submitted by Ingress players, so it's more helpful to view it as helping out other gamers, even if you don't play that game. Ingress Agents didn't kick off (to my knowledge) about their nominations being used in Pokémon GO.
There were also scraps from Google Maps that included post offices, fire departments, public libraries, and other public points of interest. That is why my area was full of duplicate post offices and one fire department had three Portals scattered across a 2-mile stretch of town (because Google Map data was very dirty back then). I still haven't cleaned up everything because the remaining "blanks" are in an area with no cell service, even with the huge booster that I have.
Oh yes. Brian did mention that in an interview he did about Ingress.
For context for others:
Also, at the time Google had a photo service called Panoramio, which was basically a geotagged Flickr for putting user-generated pictures onto Google Maps. We would pull data from there for photos tagged "sculpture," "mural," "water fountain," or other artistic places. These were interesting places to look at in a neighborhood, but they were also, by nature of being public, likely safe places for people to come and gather.@ELTURCO1986-PGO Sorry, I have found the mural I think you submitted. There are a lot of reasons why that should not have made it through the approval process. But not even touching those issues, this is in the same cell as the POI called Tombstone so it won't ever show up in the game. It looks like it is too close to that to show up in Ingress as well.
@ELTURCO1986-PGO After just a few more minutes of digging, it became obvious to a few of us that you submitted a BLATANTLY FAKE wayspot. The mural that you have the nerve to come on here and complain about being "missing" from Pokemon GO DOES NOT EXIST WHERE YOU CLAIM IT DOES. To the best of our Googling skills, we determined that this mural is located in France. You took this photo from the internet and lied about this existing in Turkey.
Who should WE contact about getting it removed? Don't worry, we know who.
Fake nominations like this are a huge part of the reason the Wayfarer process is slow and difficult. If people would not lie about their submissions, we could make it all work so much better and faster.