Yes that is auto reject. If it ever has no reasons under “not accepted” it is auto reject. There is no way to improve your nomination, auto reject is not perfect. If you think that it’s eligible appeal it or renominate it.
1) Your dog is in the photo - submitter identifiable
2) There is no way to see it in google street view and imagery, which is where most viewers look
3) The main photo is not very good, you see more of the surroundings than the trail markers
Its possible they could still auto reject, but if you can zoom in further on the trail markers, link to some web page that talks about these two trails and gives a map (a map is key), make sure something in your supporting or main photo can be seen in google imagery (like that road - is that a road?), and make sure your dog (or you) isn't in any of the photos.
The arrows are the only relevant bit of the photo, as they're the markers. The rest of it is just a wooden post. You definitely could've taken a close up of the arrows for the main photo.
The automated filter seems to not like main photos which are mostly nature, so that's likely why it got auto rejected.
Honestly, the dog should not be in any of the photos. That can easily be a way to signal to your local voters that this is from you, please accept it as is.
Having the dog is in the supporting photo should reach to being rejected, but it is best practice to include humans or animals in either the main photo or the supporting photo. As far as the marker goes, you did not put the trail's name in the title or description, so as a reviewer, I do not have any information to judge it properly. If you take a better photo and include better information, it got a shot of getting approved.
You need a much tighter zoom in on the trail markers themselves, cut out as much of the surrounding greenery as you can. If it's not visible from satellite view and not obvious from Google Maps, try linking to OpenStreetMap in the supporting text - that's actually the dataset that Niantic uses in-game. Better still, if there's some other source that shows the trails on a map then add that to the supporting text.
And no dog - it could be used as a way of making the submitter identifiable, and reviewers may reject it for "live animal" even though it is in the supporting photo only.
Ok it’s blurry but this is the sort of close up that works better.
your title and description need to be distinctive and more detailed. The title needs to say how this one will be distinguished from another either with a number or something else eg where 3 trails meet.
The red and yellow trail name or place name. Eg a marker keeping you on track on the 3km woodland figure of 8 loop (red trail) central crossover and the 6km long woods and river (yellow trail) - totally fictional but hopefully you get the idea.
Well imagine what that would look like on a ingress portal or pokéstop! It’s a little blurry and would be rejected for low quality photo. The submitter should just take the photo again.
I think you misunderstood @Elijustrying-ING 's post - he wasn't suggesting using a blurry crop, but retaking the shot as a close up to get the approximate proportions of his example.
You have misunderstood. maybe I should have been more explicit.
I was illustrating the sort of closeup that might well do better with the AI - I was not suggesting at all that this exact one should be used. I would fully expect the submitter to take the idea and then take a nice crisp closeup.
I'm sharing this one I saw recently because I like the framing of the post in the photos. I don't love that we can't tell which post this is because it doesn't have a mile marker number on it, so don't get hung up on that. I don't know for certain, but I think the big issue is the contrast of something colorful against the natural background. When the AI can't figure out what the object is, I think it "sees" just a patch of grass and trees. Your battle is that the natural wooden post is roughly the same color as the trees behind and the leaves on the ground. You have to find a way to make the object stand out.
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Yes that is auto reject. If it ever has no reasons under “not accepted” it is auto reject. There is no way to improve your nomination, auto reject is not perfect. If you think that it’s eligible appeal it or renominate it.
This is a tough sell for many reasons:
1) Your dog is in the photo - submitter identifiable
2) There is no way to see it in google street view and imagery, which is where most viewers look
3) The main photo is not very good, you see more of the surroundings than the trail markers
Its possible they could still auto reject, but if you can zoom in further on the trail markers, link to some web page that talks about these two trails and gives a map (a map is key), make sure something in your supporting or main photo can be seen in google imagery (like that road - is that a road?), and make sure your dog (or you) isn't in any of the photos.
The dog is only in the supplemental photo showing it's a trail.
Can we even submit photosphere's anymore.
The main photo includes the whole trail marker, and closer and it will cut some of it out
No it's not a road, it's a trail
The arrows are the only relevant bit of the photo, as they're the markers. The rest of it is just a wooden post. You definitely could've taken a close up of the arrows for the main photo.
The automated filter seems to not like main photos which are mostly nature, so that's likely why it got auto rejected.
Honestly, the dog should not be in any of the photos. That can easily be a way to signal to your local voters that this is from you, please accept it as is.
Having the dog is in the supporting photo should reach to being rejected, but it is best practice to include humans or animals in either the main photo or the supporting photo. As far as the marker goes, you did not put the trail's name in the title or description, so as a reviewer, I do not have any information to judge it properly. If you take a better photo and include better information, it got a shot of getting approved.
You need a much tighter zoom in on the trail markers themselves, cut out as much of the surrounding greenery as you can. If it's not visible from satellite view and not obvious from Google Maps, try linking to OpenStreetMap in the supporting text - that's actually the dataset that Niantic uses in-game. Better still, if there's some other source that shows the trails on a map then add that to the supporting text.
And no dog - it could be used as a way of making the submitter identifiable, and reviewers may reject it for "live animal" even though it is in the supporting photo only.
Ok it’s blurry but this is the sort of close up that works better.
your title and description need to be distinctive and more detailed. The title needs to say how this one will be distinguished from another either with a number or something else eg where 3 trails meet.
The red and yellow trail name or place name. Eg a marker keeping you on track on the 3km woodland figure of 8 loop (red trail) central crossover and the 6km long woods and river (yellow trail) - totally fictional but hopefully you get the idea.
No I am sorry but that does not look better.
Cropped to those proportions it's much les likely to be rejected by AI
Well imagine what that would look like on a ingress portal or pokéstop! It’s a little blurry and would be rejected for low quality photo. The submitter should just take the photo again.
I think you misunderstood @Elijustrying-ING 's post - he wasn't suggesting using a blurry crop, but retaking the shot as a close up to get the approximate proportions of his example.
@Shakananas-PGO
You have misunderstood. maybe I should have been more explicit.
I was illustrating the sort of closeup that might well do better with the AI - I was not suggesting at all that this exact one should be used. I would fully expect the submitter to take the idea and then take a nice crisp closeup.
I'm sharing this one I saw recently because I like the framing of the post in the photos. I don't love that we can't tell which post this is because it doesn't have a mile marker number on it, so don't get hung up on that. I don't know for certain, but I think the big issue is the contrast of something colorful against the natural background. When the AI can't figure out what the object is, I think it "sees" just a patch of grass and trees. Your battle is that the natural wooden post is roughly the same color as the trees behind and the leaves on the ground. You have to find a way to make the object stand out.