Tombs and mausoleums
MegaTrainerRed-PGO
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Hi everyone!
Yesterday I was thinking about a cemetery that is located in my town and all the wayspots that are approved inside. This cemetery is the biggest cemetery in the country and in all Western Europe and is 120 hectares long. Inside the cemetery there are some tombs and mausoleums of some of the most important or significant people in the country (most of them are not wayspot at the moment). Also, nowadays, most of the waysposts are just regular crosses or Jesus Schrist sculptures in generic tombs (people that were not famous), that were approved in Ingress era.
I was thinking about going there and submit some stuff because it can be a great place to explore (there are some tourist visits all over the cemetery). Then, I started to ask myself because I know is very difficult to get something approved in cemeteries (or at least it is in my country), so I wanted to start this post to know more opinions.
1) What opinion do you have about submitting famous and significant peoples tombs (maybe is not just for this person, maybe his/her whole family are resting there with him/her), that are just tombs, that doesn't have any sculpture on it?
2) I remember that are not allowed to submit tombs of generic people but, is also not allowed to submit excellent sculptures or statues in generic's peoples tombs? Like, maybe the sculpture is pretty known in the cemetery or maybe it have some story around it but the person that is resting there is not a famous or significant person. It would be okay or it could be valid to submit that sculptures?
These two questions are the same for mausoleums, so I'm asking about the tombs and mausoleums criteria.
I would like a positive and healthy discussion, always with respect, every opinion is okay but I would like to know how people could review this two cases.
Thank you everyone who participates!
Comments
I have had the gravestones of two people approved. One was rejected during the Wayfarer Challenge, but then Niantic approved it on appeal. The other was seemingly approved by the automated filter as it never had the "in voting" tag.
In both cases, the people had Wikipedia articles detailing who they were and why they were important. The articles both also linked to the Wikipedia article for the cemetery itself, which lists them as notable burials. I also provided additional links that contained further relevant information in both cases.
You may struggle to get them approved through regular voting, as a lot of reviewers are maybe a bit too cautious when it comes to cemeteries, but if they are for notable people, they should meet the eligibility criteria, and so long as you've provided all the relevant information, I would guess that Niantic would approve on appeal if you needed to appeal any of them.
Yes, they are relevant people. Some of them are ones of the most important writers, mayors, presidents, singers or dancers, etc., of the country. Each one have their Wikipedia article and most of them are studied in schools.
For me it depends on the cemetery.
I've had a 400 year family burial vault of Lord Toffington of Toffington added and an old chapel in a cemetery added. They were both in places that are no longer used for burials though.
I also did this on my way home today although the cemetery is blocked from Niantic games and it's very much a place to walk through respectfully of course.
If it's a newer cemetery with burials still ongoing and recent family members still visiting I'd be very reticent about adding anything and it would effect my review.
This cemetery is 140 years old and continues working nowadays. As I said is a very significant cemetery for the country and in Europe. There are 5 million people buried there because is the main cemetery of the city. There are tombs of important people and high quality sculptures in generic tombs of people that died 70 years ago. That's why I don't know if it's okay to submit there new stuff. I'm thinking about going there and submit the famous tombs and excellent sculptures in generic tombs, just to try my luck and Niantic 's opinion when I appeal them because I'm pretty sure they will be rejected.
I think it's just a judgement call if you feel happy with it go for it.
I can't say what other reviewers will do though unfortunately.