Yet Another Incorrect AI/ML Decision

I nominated an artificial topiary in the shape of a tooth that was incorrectly rejected by AI/ML. Second time having this rejected now. First was by reviewers. I took new photos when I submitted this for the second time. Very disappointed that it just gets automatically rejected. And when you only get 1 appeal every 30 days, it feels like I am forced to use a very rare appeal on something that a machine incorrectly rejected.


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  • Beneathar-PGOBeneathar-PGO Posts: 76 ✭✭✭

    Temporary display. Easy reject.


    Actually correct AI decision.

  • smantz0rZ-PGOsmantz0rZ-PGO Posts: 351 ✭✭✭✭

    If this truly is "Machine Learning" then there needs to be a way to teach it better, which would require user input. Active Wayfarers need to be able to request overrides readily. 1000+ Agreements + Great rating? Allow a review!

    Refund Upgrades wasted!

  • Elijustrying-INGElijustrying-ING Posts: 5,488 Ambassador

    @Sunkast-PGO

    Could you please post the rest of the nomination.

    This looks like this a classic case of “too much green” which the ML or Emily as we have called it really doesn’t like. It also looks as though it is next to cemetery. I presume the dentist is just outside of the cemetery area, but there have also been problems recently with Emily being over sensitive to potentially sensitive locations.

  • ZombieZebra3-PGOZombieZebra3-PGO Posts: 180 ✭✭✭

    I can also confirm the AI doesn’t like “too much brown”. I recently had a nomination of a scenic lookout in a local park rejected.

  • Sunkast-PGOSunkast-PGO Posts: 82 ✭✭✭

    The first submission was rejected for temp and natural feature. I intentionally waited a couple months for the end of fall to take new photos so that it would hopefully be more obvious that it was not a natural feature. I also tried to get an angle for the main photo that showed the base of the topiary to point out that is not natural, and is permanent. The support photo I took at an angle that included the dentist office. I guess none of the effort I made to address the initial rejections mattered since it was rejected automatically by AI/ML.

    I genuinely feel like submitting this again would be futile as a result of my experience with AI/ML. I have many other noms I would rather use an appeal on than this one merely to help the machine learn. I know I am not the only one that feels this way. I am all for helping to improve the machine. But not at the expense of the limited number of appeals I can make. Perhaps if there was some other way to submit incorrectly rejected AI/ML noms for it to learn from, that would be preferable.

  • Elijustrying-INGElijustrying-ING Posts: 5,488 Ambassador

    Thanks.

    It’s a tough one. Normally I would suggest trying to close crop on the tooth, but as it’s designed to mimic real life I’m no convinced it would work unless it has a dusting of snow 🤔

    I think it’s confusing to use topiary in the title. My reaction was so this is topiary and not until I read further do I start to understand it is a model or sculpture (not sure what would be best word) . I wouldn’t be surprised if the word topiary was part of the reasons for rejection. So I would suggest a title change and maybe review how it’s coming across in the text. It is meant to be fun - going to the dentist is fun??? so maybe inject some of that fun into the description. Give it another go.

  • Axino-PGOAxino-PGO Posts: 200 ✭✭✭

    If it's not a plant, what is it made of?

  • Shilfiell-INGShilfiell-ING Posts: 1,560 Ambassador

    I'd call it a Fauxpiary to avoid confusion. :)

  • Hosette-INGHosette-ING Posts: 3,470 ✭✭✭✭✭

    I might call it a sculpture designed in the style of a topiary.

  • Sunkast-PGOSunkast-PGO Posts: 82 ✭✭✭

    Here is another that AI/ML completely whiffed on. Identifying info has been censored in the screenshot.

  • Elijustrying-INGElijustrying-ING Posts: 5,488 Ambassador

    Oh I like that…quite clever.

    Thats a pity it didn’t get passed Emily

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