Criteria for "Duplicate" rejection?

recently had a stop rejected after being flagged as a duplicate, despite there not being any gyms or stops at that location or for that subject (a music and arts venue) according to campfire and pogomap. there is a stop at the end of the block for a mural, but Is unrelated to this one. as an arts venue half a block away from gallaudet university's campus and in a rapidly growing neighborhood, it seems like an obvious one to approve. is there more to the "duplicate" tag? I was under the impression it only factors in if there is an existing stop or gym present. and is there anything to do about sloppy reviewers that might be throwing that tag around a little too liberally?


Songbyrd

550 Penn St. NE (38.91028, -76.99647)

Washington, DC

USA


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  • HankWolfman-PGOHankWolfman-PGO Posts: 4,655 ✭✭✭✭✭

    It does exist in the database, so it was correctly marked as a duplicate:

    It isn't able to appear in Pokémon Go though, due to being in the same Level 17 S2 Cell as "Angelika Eye Mural".

    When you submit something through Pokémon Go, you're not submitting a Pokéstop, but rather a wayspot for Niantic's Lightship database. This database contains all wayspots. From there, each of Niantic's games populates their maps according to a game specific proximity rule, and so each game essentially contains a subset of wayspots, whilst hiding the rest of them. However, because you're submitting a wayspot for the database, reviewers are able to see all the nearby wayspots, including those that don't appear in certain games, and that's why you can't see it in Pokémon Go, but it is correctly marked as a duplicate.

    If you want to learn more about the Pokémon Go proximity rule of one Pokéstop or Gym per Level 17 S2 Cell, I suggest you Google search for the Pokémon Go Hub Comprehensive Guide to S2 Cells in Pokémon Go.

    Additionally, when you're submitting a new nomination, if you press the option to make a new submission whilst you're physically at the location of what you intend to submit, the first screen shows a map, and has a toggle in the bottom left corner. This toggle, when enabled, will populate the map with all wayspots within 100 metres of where you're physically stood (which is why it's important to do it at the location, as it doesn't update if you move the pin). All wayspots that are in Pokémon Go appear as blue icons, whilst all wayspots that aren't in Pokémon Go appear as orange icons. In either case you can tap on an icon to see what wayspot it represents, and that should help you check for duplicates that don't appear in Pokémon Go.

  • HankWolfman-PGOHankWolfman-PGO Posts: 4,655 ✭✭✭✭✭

    Also, I see one of your screenshots is from PoGoMap. That website can show you cells if you tap settings > visual and then select level 14 and level 17 as the S2 Cells (level 14 is commonly paired with level 17 as the amount of Pokéstops and Gyms in a level 14 cell determines when a new Gym will be created in that level 14 cell). This might help a bit, but just bear in mind that all the wayspots that appear on that map are user submitted, and many users don't know how to source the exact coordinates of wayspots, so they'll just do it by eye and sometimes things will end up placed in the wrong cells on that map as a result. The satellite visuals on that map are also pretty low quality compared to Google maps. IITC is a better alternative (with Pokémon Go add ons), but I'm not the right person to ask about setting that up.

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