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Gazebos?
dandeeni-PGO
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What about gazebo / smokers shed in the beer garden of a pub?
Loads of pubs have them simce smokimg inside was banned
Answers
A gazebo is a gazebo an allowed as long as it is not on grounds for Private Single Family Property or Schools or EMS. Most are used for smokers this day and age. Smokers still play the games.
Similary in guidance for murals on adult oriented places. Bars are written as allowed. A gazebo at it would be similar to a gazebo at a church. Should be acceptable.
Places like schools and private property say that we are to deny all nominations on those properties. Does this precedent extend to the denials that we are supposed to do on "Adult orientated Businesses" (**** clubs, liquor stores)? Example, a mural is painted on the wall of a marijuana shop. Are we to deny the mural because it's on a place that should not be accepted or are we to not worry about what type of business that it's on? The businesses themselves may not meet criteria since they would fall under generic businesses. A mural or candidate not related to the business should be reviewed on its own merit.
Gazebos are great candidates @dandeeni-PGO , they've always been 5-Star recommended rating. I wouldn't call it a smoker's shed in the title or description though, might lose you a few stars.
Please don't start more bar/pub drama, please.
This OP was asked about on a Pub because they obviously thought a Pub itself wasn't acceptable. That isn't drama. This is someone asking about things at Bars and Pubs.
If the gazebo was decorative enough to have visual uniqueness, sure. Many gazebos/smokers sheds I've seen outside pubs and bars look like they were bought from a garden centre or are just a few bits of wood though.
It would need to be a pretty unique gazebo. The ones I've seen at pubs with beer gardens tend to be the mass produced ones you can pick up from any garden centre.
Guidance from October 2019.
October 2019
Q51: Do structures that meet the same usage as Gazebos such as pergolas, pavillions, ramadas, arbors, etc fit acceptance criteria? There's a lot of debate about this on the forums
A51: If it's in a park and has pedestrian access, yes. If they are in the backyard of your private residence, no.
That would be an appropriate response if the answer to that AMA stated pubs along side parks.
At present, it's open to interpretation if gazebos, etc in beer gardens/smoking areas are acceptable, and then there's the possible argument of beer gardens being regarded as a duplicate of a pub, with them being owned and attached to the pub itself.
Not all beer gardens are attached. A gazebo at a church or a college is allowed. An AMA answer is valid for all areas that are public and acceptable.
Bars are deemed acceptable. Making gazebos and similar structures acceptable. The bar itself is acceptable if the original OP didn't realize. These are still community gathering places that often have social conversations that occur at them.
The question isnt about the eligibility of the bar, stop trying to stir up drama again. That thread got closed.
Do you have a photo of the type of Gazebo you're thinking of?
That thread got closed because of players not following community guidelines. People attacking another's person character on the forums is a violation of community guidelines. Treat people with respect.
Don't start gas lighting. You were the one that made out people were mentally unwell and full of hatred because they disagreed with you and then started to play victim, like you are now, because people pulled you up over.
In response to your other comment, all beer gardens that apart of a pub are attached to it since you can only drink alcohol you've purchased from the premises of a pub on their premises. The AMA answer also clearly states in a park, meaning that gazebos in beer gardens are open for interpretation.
If people think a gazebo in a beer garden should be a wayspot, then they should submit it and leave it for the reviewers to decide, but until Niantic definitely state gazebos on the premises of a pub are okay, then it's still open for interpretation.
Bars already have gazebos and pavilions allowed. They exist in game already. It was discussed previously a year ago. Because someone thought it was abuse for a pavilion at a bar. Niantic rejected the abuse report because it does meet criteria.
Niantic don't remove existing Wayspots just because they don't meet guidelines. So the fact it stayed in game proves nothing about Niantic's feelings on gazebos at pubs.
There's scout huts in Australia as wayspots, primary school as a wayspot in York, there's a castle that's on a privately owned farm in Flamborough as a wayspot. Niantic have ruled that all these should remain in the portal network. Does that mean they're evidence that wayspots that are on private property or on K12-designated premises are allowable? No, it doesn't.
As for the discussion about gazebos and pavilions are bars/pubs, can you point me in the direction of that discussion? As the AMA answer you posted earlier only mentions that gazebos, etc are acceptable in parks.
Go to wayfarer. Bars are allowed and acceptable. The grounds of bars are allowed. Various different art and other things are allowed in businesses per the January 2020 update. An AMA answer that says things are acceptable are allowed in all areas that could have them. A gazebo at a college isn't listed in the guidance but still acceptable by the community. A gazebo at a bar is the same situation and the same intent. Only place gazebos are not allowed is on Schools, EMS, or Private single famile property.
Wayfarer guidance.
Do structures that meet the same usage as Gazebos such as pergolas, pavilions, ramadas, arbors, etc fit acceptance criteria? If it's in a park and has pedestrian access, yes. If they are in the backyard of your private residence, no.
How about you read what I'm saying properly without cherry picking it to suit your arguments?
I am not questioning the eligibility of bars and pubs on this thread. I was stating that the AMA answer about gazebos states parks, nothing about anywhere else.
But seen as you are continuing to derail yet another thread with pointless arguments and cherry picked text, I will not be engaging on this subject any further.
The answer is directing that yes these things are acceptable because they are a structure. Location only matters if it is eligible grounds for wayspots.
I interpret the 'parks' part of that clarification to mean any place where Wayspots are acceptable. I submit and approve gazebos and pavilions at churches, apartment complexes and near businesses. A bar or pub structure of the gazebo/pavilion type could be a valid candidate. Success of individual candidates would depend on their size, purpose, and distinctness from the main building. Not an easy approval like one in a park but a possibility.
Regardless of where it is other than a place like school grounds it should be rated on it's own merit.
Reading to much into what niantic is asking for just starts people false information about how things should be reviewed.
Where I live there is a WhatsApp group that read into everything and wondered why there rating dropped. If you dont agree with how they vote they kick you out the group.
There's scout huts in Australia as wayspots, primary school as a wayspot in York, there's a castle that's on a privately owned farm in Flamborough as a wayspot. Niantic have ruled that all these should remain in the portal network. Does that mean they're evidence that wayspots that are on private property or on K12-designated premises are allowable? No, it doesn't.
As for the discussion about gazebos and pavilions are bars/pubs, can you point me in the direction of that discussion? As the AMA answer you posted earlier only mentions that gazebos, etc are acceptable in parks.