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Indoor wayspots at businesses
Dice3423-ING
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Indoor wayspots are not to be rated a generic business they are to be reviewed on their own merit. Art is acceptable yet this was rejected.
@NianticCasey-ING can you explain to reviewers what they are supposed to do with indoor submissions? This is interior decorative glass for an indoor lobby. Per criteria it meets the guideline established in the january 2020 update.
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JSteve0-ING
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The guidance actually says:
A cool piece of art or unique architecture
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Unfortunately, some reviewers will put down "Generic Business" as a reject reason when other reject reasons are more accurate. Sometimes just because the Nomination is inside a Business, sometimes just because it's the first in the list. I'm sorry you were not able to receive proper feedback about why your Nomination didn't meet the Nomination criteria.
You can try submitting your Nomination again, but I would reccomend against it since it appears to be a mass-produced window. If there's any evidence to the contrary, I would say try to include it in the description or supporting statement, but you would have better luck submitting other items if this weren't the case. I hope this helps!
Great response @GearGlider-ING
Niantic are clear indoor nominations are acceptable (providing they meet criteria), I'm not sure this needs verifying.
Proving location can be tricky for an indoors nomination, which can be another reason many fail.
This in particular would struggle to get approved as it doesnt appear to meet any criteria though. Would be interested to hear if it has any historical/cultural significance.
Well rating that as a candidate
1) That picture is awful
2) Thats not art, at best its a semi fancy mirror.
But, you are right in saying that it should not be rejected as a generic business just because its inside a business.
Thats an easy 1* doesn't meet criteria rejection
*Some* decorative glass is art.
That isn't.
In your opinion, but to me that looks like a mirror you can purchase from any shop. Would need a very good description and information to prove otherwise.
Mass produced art, even if inside a business, are still not eligible.
It isn't mass produced. Decorative is all uniquely sized and made. There is no standard size for glass. Glass is sized by the 1/16th of an inch in size. It makes it uniquely and not mass produced.
No-one is arguing that indoor nominations, particularly art in a lobby, are ineligible. We agree it shouldn't have been rejected for generic business.
We don't believe this meet criteria, even it was outdoors.
Indoor art installations can be eligible as long as they
also meet the criteria of being visually unique and locally significant
This looks like it could be in a number of restaurants. It isn't particularly artistic. Does it have any local significance?
No place to go and by decorative glass anywhere locally as a normal person. Decorative glass is sold solely to glass contractors to install in businesses. Because they know how to install with safety and proper installations guides are used by manufacturers.
Still doesn't make it art
Looks like something at a franchise restaurant that the builder order out of a catalog. If this is a custom piece of art, where is the plaque showing the title of the work and the artist?
Google decorative glass. Plenty of unique and various things are considered architectural art. All of which is uniquely sized and made solely for one project at a time.
Guidance for indoor submissions is clear. You are to accept. Location you can give a 3 star for it is likely to exist. Doesn't stop the rest of the review. Shouldn't be abused with a 1 star vote.
I'm not convinced that it isn't mass produced. So it will get nothing more than 1-star from me, no matter how much you dictate to me otherwise.
If it meets criteria. Everyone agrees indoors nominations that meet criteria are eligible, so no point reminding us of of this. The guidelines don't say to approve everything indoors. We still have to hold them to the same standards.
You not being convinced is your decision. Let others have their decision.
Decorative glass doesn't have an artist. There is no plague showing a title. You are asking the wrong product for stuff it doesn't have.
Where are your plagues and stuff for Statues that you all approve everywhere? You don't ask for it on a statue. Yet you are demanding on a custom piece of decorative glass. That is crazy.
Whether something is art or not is subjective. Each person will have their own opinion. While that is an attractive piece of decorative glass it will not meet the definition of art for many reviewers (myself included). Best advice is to submit and see if the set of reviewers that sees it thinks that it is a cool piece of art.
Then you should stop demanding how others must review. That is the entire point of this topic after all. Not to seek clarification on a guideline, but to demand reviewers rate a nomination a particular way.
Cool pieces of art that are used for architecture. Can we get it right please.
Then listen to your "Ignore" and stop chiming in on my stuff.
The guidance actually says:
Asking for guidance from niantic on what to do with indoor submissions because people are rejecting because they can not confirm it exists is a 3 star vote on location that you are unsure. You should be using a full review on something that has written direction by niantic. Indoor Submissions in the lobby of a business has guiidance. This type of submission is a valid submission per guidelines.
Then you are not going to convence me that it is anything more than mass produced decoration.
Oh, I've rejected plenty of mass produced statutes and figurines when it is obvious that they are mass produced. There is one particular figurine of Jesus Christ that is at three different local churches that someone tried to nominate.
I will respond when I feel necessary and when I see someone, like you, deliberately spreading misinformation. You cannot dictate to me what I can and cannot respond to.
I certainly will not automatically 5* every St. Frances that I come across. And if you know where I can mail order a historic plaque, I'd like to know... I've never seen one for sale.