Rural nomination advice
Millse-ING
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Hi community,
I'm a UK rural player and have recently hit level 40, so want to try and increase the number of Pokestops in my area. Where I live is on the edge of the Peak District, where we get many tourists who like to visit for walking / rambling. I'm therefore looking for some advice as to whether any of these would be good / eligible submissions:
- Information sign depicting map of bridleway walking route https://ibb.co/WnMP3Kj
- Footbridge over a river as part of a public bridleway walking route https://ibb.co/1MYPcDt
- Footbridge over a brook as part of a public footpath https://ibb.co/D8swXJK
- Grade II listed public phone kiosk https://ibb.co/jgz1mVg
With regards to the two footbridges and the bridleway walking route, they aren't strictly speaking on a named trail, but they are on a well walked "off the beaten track" route (see link: http://walks.walkingworld.com/walk/Clifton---Snelston---Church-Mayfield.aspx).
Any help would be greatly appreciated. TIA :)
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BaltiCalling-ING
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First seems good.
Footbridges are toss-ups, but I think they're fine.
I don't know much about telephone boxes in the UK.
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FrealafGB-PGO
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I'm from the UK and I'd accept those bridges happily. They are clearly a local landmark on a trail - I'd submit the link about the walk in supporting information. Even if the trail doesn't have a formal name if there's a name that local people would use for it then mention that - there are plenty of footpaths and bridleways in the UK that have names and local significance but the signs don't show them, so really sell that in your nomination if possible.
The map doesn't look superb but if its in a very sparse area I'd 3* it.
I'm not an expert on phone boxes but if its got a good writeup about what it is then I'm sure it can be accepted.
I think all these submissions are cases where the way you write the nomination will make a difference. A polished writeup will help a lot, and please feel free to ask for advice on what include here.
I've personally had very bad luck with foot bridges and had them rejected a lot, but I have now managed to improve one of my nominations to the point where it was accepted so it can be done.
Good luck!
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First seems good.
Footbridges are toss-ups, but I think they're fine.
I don't know much about telephone boxes in the UK.
OK thanks. Although I've already tried nominating the first one once and the second once twice, all of which have been rejected. I might try again then.
In order
1. Its a bridleway map, not the most exciting map in the world, it may scrape through but its a very meh candidate.
2. No a bridleway bridge is not a good candidate, its not on a named trail so doesnt meet criteria. For non UK peeps a bridleway is just a slightly wider standard footpath that can be used by horses as well as pedestrians. They are nothing special.
3. No its a generic footpath bridge, as per point 2 it needs to be on a named trail to be acceptable.
4. Telephone boxes are a bit contentious, check out https://community.wayfarer.nianticlabs.com/discussion/comment/29037 if you want to find out more of what may ne accepted.
As to the items being on a walk not a trail. Anything can be classified as a walk by anyone, my walking trip to the shops could be classed as a walking route, it doesn't make any bridges I cross acceptable.
The items need to be on a named trail to be acceptable
Ok thanks, I thought that may be the case. :( It's incredibly frustrating that the entire premise of the Wayfarer is to encourage people to explore the community and "encourage players to walk, exercise and enjoy public spaces", which our village does very well, however nothing in it is eligible as a Wayspot nomination.
POI's along trails are frequently discussed in this forum. Because they are a valuable asset especially in rural areas. Niantic set the rule: signs of trailheads and trailmarkers with trail name are eligible. I assume that the aim is to separate well maintained touristic trails from small walking trails. And to separate long lasting markers from temporary markers on trees that will be attached to the next tree if the original tree falls or is harvested.
This rule does not fit every country.
Niantic modifies rules if they are provided with info and the community supports the modification. September discussion (AMA) just closed, but there will be the next one. Place your request and see what happens.
I personally would have accepted the bridges, or the second one at least. I’m fairly new to this so am still learning, but I see the second bridge over the creek as interesting or unique despite not having a sign. I’d probably rate it mid range since I am not sure, but I don’t see why it couldn’t be a valid nomination.
I'm from the UK and I'd accept those bridges happily. They are clearly a local landmark on a trail - I'd submit the link about the walk in supporting information. Even if the trail doesn't have a formal name if there's a name that local people would use for it then mention that - there are plenty of footpaths and bridleways in the UK that have names and local significance but the signs don't show them, so really sell that in your nomination if possible.
The map doesn't look superb but if its in a very sparse area I'd 3* it.
I'm not an expert on phone boxes but if its got a good writeup about what it is then I'm sure it can be accepted.
I think all these submissions are cases where the way you write the nomination will make a difference. A polished writeup will help a lot, and please feel free to ask for advice on what include here.
I've personally had very bad luck with foot bridges and had them rejected a lot, but I have now managed to improve one of my nominations to the point where it was accepted so it can be done.
Good luck!
Thanks you, that's really helpful. Are you able to share the example of the accepted bridge?
Here you go.
This was my 2nd attempt at it and I made many revisions to the write up before it went into voting the 2nd time. The first time I took the main picture more like the supporting picture which didn't look as nice (was taken in winter too) and I didn't know it was on a named trail so I only mentioned that it's on the path to the nature trail on the island.
You can't see any trail markers near the bridge - they're old and in a bad state of disrepair, or just missing, but there are still a couple a 1km and 3 km away, and the website for the trail is maintained, so that's why I didn't originally know about it and only found it when researching online.